Smart Clients a Dead Concept ?

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LesterBurnham - 20 Jun 2006 07:07 GMT

hi all

the notion of smart clients seems a good one from a development perspective
but there does not seem to be much literature around. not one current book.

can anyone she light on the current state of play? is MS pushing this
technology? or have we moved on?

thanks

Richard

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Dmytro Lapshyn [MVP] - 20 Jun 2006 09:30 GMT

Hi,

Microsoft, along with the community, are working on a software factory that
will facilitate smart client development:

http://www.gotdotnet.com/codegallery/codegallery.aspx?id=941d2228-3bb5-42fd-8004
-c08595821170&newsId=776b2e11-b7b7-4f2b-b78e-be4107cb6e02

There's also an online Smart Client Architecture and Design guide:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnpag/html/SCAG.asp?frame=true

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Chuck P - 20 Jun 2006 15:35 GMT

I'd be happy with just some code that shows

1. how to center a messagebox in a MDI application with 2 monitors
that are reversed in display properties.

2. how to cut/copy/paste from every MS control.

I won't hold my breath.

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Dmytro Lapshyn [MVP] - 20 Jun 2006 15:08 GMT

There's also an AudioCast from a Microsoft representative on smart clients:

http://www.ddj.com/dept/windows/188703075;jsessionid=HP4RDYQQTUQ4WQSNDLRSKH0CJUNN2JVN

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LesterBurnham - 21 Jun 2006 03:00 GMT

Thanks for the resources Dymtro but do you think there is a lot of momentum
for this technology? Amazon only has 2 books that claim to be about the
technology and neither are for the current state of play. It is worrying
when you are choosing infrastructure for a new project.

I'd like to believe that MS will persue it so that we move away from the
ASP, javascript, html, vbscript, xsl, xml etc etc toolset which i think is
generally a messy way to develop an application.

Just seems like things are very quiet when it comes to smart clients.

Cheers

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Dmytro Lapshyn [MVP] - 23 Jun 2006 12:24 GMT

Lester,

I am afraid I should tell you the bad news. The current momentum is towards
Web 2.0 applications (read AJAX, SOA etc.), which are technologically based
on DHTML, JavaScript, XML, XSL etc. Probably it's just a trend, but all
these topics receive the most of book writers' attention nowadays.

If you are seriously persistent about developing your app as a Smart Client,
at least consider ClickOnce deployment, since one of the main Web
applications' benefits is no-hassle deployment, especially in corporate
Intranets. And ClickOnce enables you to ensure your desktop application is
deployed as smoothly as possible.

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Regards,
Dmytro Lapshyn [MVP]
http://blogs.vbcity.com/DmytroL

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LesterBurnham - 26 Jun 2006 02:01 GMT

Thanks Dymtro

That clarifies things for me. I will still go with the Smart Client
architecture as I think it is a better model for the development and also I
have the benefit of developing the app for one large client who can install
Net Framework 2 as needed.

I think that once the framework is installed across a wider base we will see
more of this type of app and say goodbye to the usage of several different
technologies to implement a solution:

ASP
HTML
DHTML
SOA
AJAX
XML
Javascript
etc
etc

It seems like we keep piling on the technologies to try and get to a point
that Smart Client architecture is already at. I think we make our already
difficult jobs all the harder by doing things this way.

Cheers

Richard

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Otis Mukinfus - 26 Jun 2006 12:24 GMT

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Amen Lester!
Good luck with your project,

Otis Mukinfus
http://www.arltex.com
http://www.tomchilders.com

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