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Upgrade from 2002 to 2003: how?

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who be dat? - 19 Feb 2004 18:15 GMT
Hello all, I hope someone can help me out.

I have Visual Studio .Net 2002, academic addition.  The 2002 editions of VS
.Net have bugs to make it simple which the 2003 version fixes.  I was told
it was possible to upgrade from 2002 to 2003 for a relatively small fee.  Is
it possible to upgrade the academic version?  Where do I get information on
the details of this and how much does it cost?  Thanks!

Chris Smith
Michael - 19 Feb 2004 22:16 GMT
There is no upgrade price for the Academic version.  You have to pay the
full price.

> Hello all, I hope someone can help me out.
>
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> Chris Smith
Ed Kaim [MSFT] - 19 Feb 2004 22:20 GMT
The academic version is available as part of an MSDN Academic Alliance
subscription, so you should be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Academic
Edition from wherever you got Visual Studio .NET 2002 Academic Edition. It's
a side-by-side install, so you can have both running without conflict. There
shouldn't be any cost to upgrade, but the MSDNAA subscription needs to have
been up to date when the product released.

> Hello all, I hope someone can help me out.
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> Chris Smith
who be dat? - 20 Feb 2004 16:17 GMT
Oh boy.  I bought it while I was in college but have since graduated.  Not
sure I can do that.  I would love to get my hands on it as the 2002 version
has bugs like crazy: intellisense craps out, the windows on the sides
(solution explorer, properties, etc) on the side have a way of crapping out
too although I can fix that by clicking the pin icon in the upper corner of
the window and pinning the window to the desktop instead of letting them fly
out, etc.  Hard to use software when you are dealing with Microshaft's bugs.
What's sad about 2003 version is it appears to be a service pack for 2002,
but they make you pay for it!!

Chris Smith

> The academic version is available as part of an MSDN Academic Alliance
> subscription, so you should be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Academic
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> > Chris Smith
Michael - 21 Feb 2004 03:40 GMT
> What's sad about 2003 version is it appears to be a service pack for
2002,
> but they make you pay for it!!

Hey. You can do that when you control the market.
Ed Kaim [MSFT] - 21 Feb 2004 10:13 GMT
Visual Studio .NET 2003 isn't a "service pack" for Visual Studio .NET 2002.
If you want Service Pack 1 for Visual Studio .NET 2002, then go sign up for
the beta at beta.microsoft.com with "vsnetspguest" as the user ID.

If you want a free product for the .NET Framework 1.1, we provide both the
.NET Framework 1.1 SDK and Web Matrix for ASP.NET.

If you are a student, you can get the latest version of Visual Studio
Academic free from your school if they are part of the MSDN Academic
Alliance (many are). This is a product for non-commercial, educational
usage. If you're not a student, then this product is not intended for you.

>  > What's sad about 2003 version is it appears to be a service pack for
> 2002,
> > but they make you pay for it!!
>
> Hey. You can do that when you control the market.
who be dat? - 27 Feb 2004 18:27 GMT
Hey smartass, I'm well aware of who the student edition is and is not
intended for.  Furthermore, I don't think anyone mentioned they wanted to
develope for .Net for free or try to use .Net for free.  You're close to
saying I want 2003 for free (i.e. get a free ride) which I don't necessarily
want:  I want the bugs in the 2002 version fixed so it's usable and it's my
understanding the bugs don't exist in 2003..  Several bugs require you to
close VS.Net down and restart it if you wish to continue working (the
properties window tends to disappear after you compile a windows applicaiton
for example, only way I know to bring it back is to close studio down and
restart it then I can continue working).  Up until recently, there was no
way to fix the bugs.  I've asked about VS .Net 2003 edition from people I
know, trust and use it.  They claim functionality wise, there is very little
difference between 2002 and 2003 (intellisense seems to pop up here and
there more often, but that's abotu it according to them).  However, all the
bugs I've found in 2002 (which they've verified they experienced as well
when they used it) don't exist in 2003 edition.  When I posted the original
message that started this thread, there was no mention of a SP1, beta or
otherwise, becomming available.  Shortly after starting this thread, it was
announced a beta for 2002 edition SP1 was out.  I have since obtained it and
I can say it's fixed all my bugs, so far anyway.   My post was a reflection
of the fact that a beta didn't exists and, per my understanding, 2003
edition was basically a bug fix for 2002 and that's all it is.  Now MS is
releasing a SP1 for the 2002 edition and all appears to be well.

Lay off the sauce and look around.  Everyone isn't a freeloader.  We just
want the software we purchased to function correctly and not have to go out
and buy a bug fix which is masquerading (spelling?) as a new product i.e. VS
.Net 2003.

Chris Smith

> Visual Studio .NET 2003 isn't a "service pack" for Visual Studio .NET 2002.
> If you want Service Pack 1 for Visual Studio .NET 2002, then go sign up for
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> > Hey. You can do that when you control the market.
Ed Kaim [MSFT] - 28 Feb 2004 06:02 GMT
I don't appreciate you calling me "smartass". You asked questions and I gave
you answers. I also gave you the various options available and your issues
have been resolved. If you look carefully, you'll notice that my most recent
response was to the post "What's sad about 2003 version is it appears to be
a service pack for 2002, but they make you pay for it!! Hey. You can do that
when you control the market.". This post didn't come from you and it needed
to be addressed directly because the poster was somewhat confused.

I still don't agree with you that VS03 is just VS02 with bug fixes. It
includes mobile development support for both browser-based and client apps,
J#, support for the .NET Framework 1.1, support for the Visual Studio Tools
for Office add-on, and yes, a lot of bug fixes among other features.

I'm sorry if you feel offended from my post, but I can assure you it wasn't
intended.

> Hey smartass, I'm well aware of who the student edition is and is not
> intended for.  Furthermore, I don't think anyone mentioned they wanted to
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> > > Hey. You can do that when you control the market.

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