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.NET Forum / Visual Studio.NET / IDE / November 2005[repost] VS2005 IDE unresponsive during C++ builds
[reposted using recognized no-spam alias] Hi, I've installed VS.NET 2005 RTM and converted an old VS.NET 2003 C++ project just to try it out. However, to my big disappointment, it is almost impossible to edit code during project builds due to the IDE being totally (well, 95%) unresponsive. Simply scrolling down one page in the C++ code takes in the order of several seconds, the same goes for trying to open a menu (e.g. Tools), switching back and forth between the IDE and other programs results in large parts of the IDE not being repainted for several seconds as well. This makes VC8 virtually unusable for me. I've had no such bad experiences from using VC7.1 on the very same machine. FYI I'm running the IDE's on a 2-way SMP machine (WinXP Pro SP2), so I tried to disable parallel builds to see if that changed things - but it did not (actually I'm pretty glad for that, as I've been waiting for parallel build support for years). Anyone out there with similar experiences - are there any settings or tweaks that could help alleviate the problem? // Johan Hi Johan >Anyone out there with similar experiences - are there >any settings or tweaks that could help alleviate the problem? Do you have such problem if you work with a genuine VC8 project(generated by the VC8 project wizard) or with a simple VC7 project(a simple console "hello World" application generated by the VC7 wizard)? There may be something corrupted in your upgraded VC7 program, the VS2005 IDE will have some problems when attempting to parse it... Thanks! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > Hi Johan > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > by the VC8 project wizard) or with a simple VC7 project(a simple console > "hello World" application generated by the VC7 wizard)? A wizard generated application takes much too short time to compile to use as a base for comparisons. I've done some more testing, and it seems like VC8 is much more sensitive to the amount of output generated by the CL compiler. The project I tried to upgrade to 8.0 is a legacy C project with some 100k LOC, and generates a very large amount of warnings when compiling at warning level 4. The VC7.1 environment is nowhere near as sluggish as VC8 under the same conditions (including warning level). Personally I don't accept warnings at all for my projects, but this one is an import of a rather large legacy project for which I have very little time to get going. I can actually get much better responsiveness from the VC8 IDE if I simply disable the warnings that originate from the worst offenders, but it's not a way I feel good about. I need the compiler to nag at me to eventually make me fix the culprits ... // Johan Hi Johan, >I've done some more testing, and it seems like VC8 is >much more sensitive to the amount of output generated >by the CL compiler. ... I am delight to know you have already found the root cause of this issue, the VC8's compiler in more strictly comply to the C++ specification, so it will generate more warnings and errors than the VC7 compiler, this behavior is as expected. Good Luck! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > Hi Johan, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > behavior > is as expected. No, that's not what I meant. Let me try to rephrase: It seems like VC.NET 2005 is more sensitive to the amount of output generated by the CL compiler than VC.NET 2003 - i.e. given the _same_ amount of warnings output by the compiler(s), the 2005 IDE is more unresponsive than the 2003 version. I might be wrong about this, or I might be right, but that was what I meant. // Johan >It seems like VC.NET 2005 is more sensitive to the amount >of output generated by the CL compiler than VC.NET 2003 >- i.e. given the _same_ amount of warnings output by the >compiler(s), the 2005 IDE is more unresponsive than the >2003 version. I got what you mean, Johan. I am afraid this is behavior is as expected in VS2005, the VS2005's integrated environment is more complicated that VS2003, sometimes it will take some more time to complete some tasks... Thanks for your understanding! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. > >It seems like VC.NET 2005 is more sensitive to the amount >>of output generated by the CL compiler than VC.NET 2003 [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > VS2005, the VS2005's integrated environment is more complicated that > VS2003, sometimes it will take some more time to complete some tasks... Sorry Gary, no offence meant, but that's always easy to say. Did you forward my comments to the development team? > Thanks for your understanding! I'm afraid I don't have so much understanding right now (this issue isn't something that I'd just accept as is), but thanks for putting in your efforts anyway. Best regards, Johan Nilsson >..., but that's always easy to say. Did you forward >my comments to the development team? That's OK, Johan. I will forward your concern to the product team. Meanwhile I suggest you can also submit it to our product's feedback site: http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/default.aspx Have a nice weekend! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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