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.NET Forum / Visual Studio.NET / IDE / May 2005Editor hangs
I am experiencing the same problem as listed by a number of other questions here whereby the vs2003 editor hangs for around 10 seconds, even if only moving the insertion point to another line of code. The editor usually can still take keyboard input so i'm guessing that it's running on a different thread to whatever is apparently locking the IDE (Intellisense maybe?). There also seem to be a lot of questions here that have not had responses. I thought that Microsoft guarentee to post an answer withing two working days at the moment?? Please let me know if anyone knows of any work arounds or fixes for this as it's slowly driving me mad! Cheers, Rob Hi Rob, >I am experiencing the same problem as listed by a number of other questions >here whereby the vs2003 editor hangs for around 10 seconds, even if only >moving the insertion point to another line of code. The editor usually can >still take keyboard input so i'm guessing that it's running on a different >thread to whatever is apparently locking the IDE (Intellisense maybe?). I am not entirely clear what "the same problem" you mentioned here? Do you refer to a problem which is discussed in another newsgroup post? If so, could you please give me its link? If your problem is that the VS.NET 2003 IDE will hang for some time when you edit your program in the code editor, would you please tell me whether the problem only happens to a specific project, or just happens randomly regardless of the projects in working? Thanks! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Gary, Thanks for coming back so quick! If you do a search in the vsnet.ide newsgroup searching for hangs, you should see a number of posts relating to the editor hanging under certain circumstances. The one that is closest to what I (and two other developers here) has the subject line '.Net IDE hangs ~10 seconds while editing files'. The problem is as you guess, if I edit the code via the code editor, or even just move the insertion point around, the IDE appears to freeze for around 5-10 seconds. During this time I can still type into the code editor even though there are no visual clues that this can be done (the cursor disappears etc.). This behaviour appears randomly now and again within this project, but we have had it occur in other projects as well. Restarting VS does not rectify the situation, nor does rebooting the machine. It appears that this only occurs under certain cirumstances (which I can't work out what) and then goes back to working normally. Cheers, Rob > Hi Rob, > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Rob, Thanks for your information! I have found that post you figured, which is talked about a VB.NET project, do you have same problem with the VB.NET project? If so, there is a known issue of when the VS.NET IDE loads a large VB solution. The VB compiler is working to generate task list errors and updated intellisense information and it could take time if the solution is very large. In this scenario. I suggest you improve performance by referencing dlls instead of creating project to project references in one big solution (I mean make your solution only load the project that you are actually working on and create a file reference(dll) to the other projects). Thanks! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Gary, I suspected that something was going on in the background like this. The solution is big, but this wouldn't explain why it will suddenly suffer from the hangs, and then at some point (normally a couple of days later) revert to working normally. I know that there are issues around the IDE where it can sometimes not work out which assemblies need to be recompiled (links below) and only a 'rebuild all' works (which I see a lot in this project), maybe the two things are related? Cheers, Rob http://www.panopticoncentral.net/archive/2004/03/19/291.aspx http://weblogs.asp.net/grobinson/archive/2003/12/29/46357.aspx > Hi Rob, > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Rob, >..., The solution is big, but this wouldn't explain why it will suddenly suffer >from the hangs, and then at some point (normally a couple of days later) >revert to working normally. >... Maybe this is another symptom of the issue I mentioned in the last message, I think it would be a good many amount of your solution's code needs to be updated sometimes, so the compiler will take more time to re-compile it, then the intellisence database is inaccessible at that time. And this could also explain why a 'rebuild all' will work. Thanks! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Gary, > I have found that post you figured, which is talked about a VB.NET > project, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > intellisense information and it could take time if the solution is very > large. Given that it can also happen with unmanaged C++ solutions, even small ones (one project or 80, it doesn't seem to make much difference) I can't see this being a VB.NET specific issue. Could it be related to source code control? All of our projects are SCC enabled, and sometimes such a delay happens when you start typing and the IDE needs to check out the file. Sometimes, but not always). I've seen the IDE go to sleep for a minute or more, but 10-20 seconds is more typical. Kind Regards, Anna-Jayne Metcalfe Software/Product Development Consultant, Riverblade Limited. http://www.riverblade.co.uk Hi Anna, >Given that it can also happen with unmanaged C++ solutions, even > small ones (one project or 80, it doesn't seem to make much difference) > I can't see this being a VB.NET specific issue. For a unmanaged C++ project, it may be caused by its intellisence database file(.ncb file) corruptted, you can delete that file and open the project in the IDE to let the VS.NET recreate it again. Thanks! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Hi Gary, > For a unmanaged C++ project, it may be caused by its intellisence database > file(.ncb file) corruptted, you can delete that file and open the project > in the IDE to let the VS.NET recreate it again. Thanks. :) Is there any possibility that this is fixed in VS2005 and in a possible service pack for VS2003? Kind Regards, Anna-Jayne Metcalfe Software/Product Development Consultant, Riverblade Limited. http://www.riverblade.co.uk > Hi Gary, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Is there any possibility that this is fixed in VS2005 and in a possible > service pack for VS2003? Don't you know? 2005 *will be* the SP for 2003. Gee... do you think I'm bitter over the way bugs were treated in the .NET => 2003 changeover? > Don't you know? 2005 *will be* the SP for 2003. LOL. Yup, except that we have to pay for the bug fixes. And it'll be released ANY YEAR NOW! :-) > Gee... do you think I'm bitter over the way bugs were treated in the > .NET => 2003 changeover? Well, I certainly am. I thought VS.NET was pretty cool when I first got it, but I've lost that respect, solely over the lack of attention to problems that we have to deal with on a daily basis.  Signatureharry Hi Anna-Jayne >Is there any possibility that this is fixed in VS2005 and in a possible >service pack for VS2003? Both of the products--- VS.NET 2005 and the service pack for the VS.NET 2003 are not released yet, currently they are still in the development and test stages, so at this time I am afraid we could not give you a confirmative answer on this issue. However since this problem is already a known issue to the VS.NET 2003, our corresponding product teams should have made some improvement about it. Thanks for your understanding! Best regards, Gary Chang Microsoft Community Support -------------------- Get Secure! ¡§C www.microsoft.com/security Register to Access MSDN Managed Newsgroups! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=/servicedesks/msdn/nospam.asp &SD=msdn This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Gary, et al I understand what might be happening with multi-project solutions and/or multi-language projects. But what about a one project solution and one language (vb). Is this what we are dealing with? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;824580 regards grondoudis > Hi Anna-Jayne > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. Quick question Does this hanging situation happen after you close out of the VS.net in any other apps before you reboot after experiencing the hangs? > I am experiencing the same problem as listed by a number of other questions > here whereby the vs2003 editor hangs for around 10 seconds, even if only [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Cheers, > Rob Quick question Does this hanging situation happen after you close out of the VS.net in any other apps before you reboot after experiencing the hangs? > I am experiencing the same problem as listed by a number of other questions > here whereby the vs2003 editor hangs for around 10 seconds, even if only [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Cheers, > Rob Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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