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Hang while debugging ASP.Net on Windows 2003

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Stu Carter - 28 Sep 2004 13:36 GMT
Hi,

ENV: Windows 2003 Enterprise, Devstudio 2003, .Net framework 1.1, Office
2003 SP1

Since applying the Visual Studio/Office/Windows hotfixes for the JPEG issue,
I am having problems debugging an ASP.Net application.

Visual Studio will hang and consume anywhere from 10% to 90% CPU when
starting debugging of an ASP.Net application.  This happens when either
starting the debugger from the IDE or attaching to the w3wp.exe process.
Looking via task manager, the devstudio.exe process is simply spinning CPU
cycles - there is no change in memory usage.

This happens frequently, but intermittently.  If it helps, when attaching to
the w3wp.exe process, the point at which devstudio hangs is almost instantly
after I hit "OK" on the "Attach to process" dialog.  The IDE does not
refresh after that point or show any indication it has attached
successfully.

The ASP.Net application is running in IIS6 native mode under the default
application pool identity (NETWORK SERVICE).

This has never happened before to me or my colleagues (who haven't applied
the patch yet).  Whether it was the JPEG fix or another hotfix, I don't
know.  I can't obtain any more hotfixes as the Windows Update web mechanism
hangs at 66% detecting... :)

Do you have any suggestions?  Please let me know if you need tracing etc.

Thanks,
Stuart
Stu Carter - 28 Sep 2004 16:49 GMT
Some additional information:

When starting the debugger through the IDE (setting the ASP.Net app as the
startup project with a start page), the IDE doesn't get as far as launching
IE...

The debugging environment is switched to (Call stack, variables, thread
windows appear), but then nothing.  Dragging windows over the top of Visual
Studio cause the frames to be repainted, but you only see the docked window
titles.  There is no content rendered in any of them, only a white or grey
background.

I would post a screenshot, but the state it is in means that it can't be
captured.

I've left the hung instance for a little over 3 hours now and still nothing.

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> Stuart
Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 29 Sep 2004 10:04 GMT
Hi Stu,

As the problem you mentioned, does it occur on all the ASP.NET web projects
on that machine? Even when we creating a new web project on it?
Is it ok to run the web application if we use CTRL + F5 to launch the
application or directly in Internet explorer.

In addition, is there any ANTI-VIRUS softwares installed on your machine?
There is a known issue that the Anti-virus software on the machine will
make the VS.NET hang when debugging asp.net web application.
Please have a check on the above things. If you have any other questions or
any new findings, please feel free to post here. Thanks.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

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Stu Carter - 30 Sep 2004 12:51 GMT
Hi Steven

I cannot reproduce it on another - simpler - ASP.Net project (tried about 10
times launching the project in debug mode (F5) after slight code changes
everytime), but that is not to say that it won't happen :)  The project I
see the problem with is relatively complex, but nothing has changed in terms
of project configuration apart from addition of 2 more .Net references.

Running the project using CTRL-F5 hasn't caused a hang.

I have Antivirus software installed, but I've had that for that last 3
years - nothing has changed there.

I see that someone else has also reported the same issue.

It is frustrating to say the least because I have to kill devstudio and then
restart it, load the solution (which is large)...5 minutes in all, just so
that I can restart debugging, but 4 or 5 builds later, it might happen
again.

Stu

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Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 01 Oct 2004 09:14 GMT
Hi Stu,

Thanks for your response. Since you mentioned that the problem is specified
on the particular project, it dosn't seems to be the anti-virus issue. But
I still recommend you stop the anti-virus tool and have a try:)

Also, since the VS.NET will create a local cache for every web project
under the
{sys dir}:\Documents and Settings\user\VSWebCache\SITE\project name

You may try deleting this folder to see whether it helps.

In addition, Since the problem not occur on the other projects, I suggest
you also try creating a new project and move all the items to the new
project step by step and test whether any particular part of the project
will cause the problem.

If you have any other questions or findings, please feel free to post here.
Thanks.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 05 Oct 2004 09:45 GMT
Hi Stu,

Have you had a chance to check the things in my last reply or have you got
any further progress on this
issue? If there is anything else we can help, please feel free to post
here. Thanks.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

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Stu Carter - 05 Oct 2004 14:17 GMT
Hi Steven,

I disabled the AntiVirus realtime scan and also deleted everything in the
VSWebCache folder but I'm still seeing it.

I can't try moving the files to a new project and seeing which, if any,
cause the problem because of the permutations involved and the dependencies
between projects in our solution, which means all or none must be moved!

Out of interest, has Microsoft had any other reports of this (apart from the
other poster in this thread)?

Thanks,
Stu

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Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 06 Oct 2004 04:33 GMT
Hi Stu,

Thanks for your response. I've also checked some former issues  and also
the threads in google, but the scenario seems different from yours. Such as
, anti-virus, installed beta version of VS.NET or some other patchs for
win2k. Since you mentioned that the problem only occurs after you installed
the JPEG issue's hotfix and other  colleagues who haven't installed it not
suffer it, I think it is likely due to something within the hotfix update.
But since the limitation of the troubleshooting assistance we can do, I
suggest that you request a regular case from the MS PSS (which can do some
thorough troubleshootings such as dump analysis) if you feel this an urgent
issue.

Also, if there is anything else we can help, please feel free to post here.
Thanks.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
Stu Carter - 06 Oct 2004 16:55 GMT
OK Steven will do.

As always, thanks for your help!
Stu

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Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 07 Oct 2004 02:27 GMT
Hi Stu,

Thanks for the followup and hope the problem soon be resolved. Also, please
always feel free to post here if you have any other questions next time.
Thanks again for posting.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

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Terry Voss - 15 Oct 2004 00:52 GMT
This line in Machine.config after the 5th occurance
of "processmodel":

<compilation debug="false" explicit="true"
defaultLanguage="vb" batchTimeout="30"
maxBatchGeneratedFileSize="10000">

Will help complex projects not have problems building
sporadically as I've been having for quite some time now.

The defaults have much smaller sizes.

HTH

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natedogg - 29 Sep 2004 20:39 GMT
I run the same environment described above and am experiencing the same issue.

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Soren Uhre - 18 Nov 2004 14:15 GMT
I've been experiencing the same problems.
Using VS.Net 2003/Framework 1.1 on a IBM ThinkCentre - Pentium 4 - 2.8Ghz -
512MB DDR 3300 Ram

Developing ASP.Net website in a large solution containing 4 projects.

This is my 3rd installation of Win XP and VS.Net 2003 and still experinecing
the same memory problem.

Initially when I open my solution I can see in the task manager, that
devenv.exe is using around 55MB of memory and 55MB of VM.

When I start rebuilding the solution it takes 70MB mem and VM.

If I start the application it takes 90MB mem and VM. Now as I stop the
application I would assume that VS.Net would go back to using 55MB but this
does not seem to be the case, it still uses 90MB.

If I start the application again and also want to debug the code, VS.Net now
takes 290MB of mem and 380MB of VM, and when I stop debugging it still uses
the same amount of memory.

Next time I start the application and want to debug, it starts at 290MB mem
and 390MB VM and rises to 400MB mem and 700MB VM.

For each time I debug my application it takes another 100-200MB.

In the end it used all avaliable memory and 1,5GB of VM
THAT IS NOT GOOD.

Because of this I need to shut down VS.Net 10 times a day which is very time
consuming.

HELP - Please - anyone ;o)
Stu Carter - 06 Dec 2004 10:59 GMT
Not sure if it is related, but I haven't had the problem since I coped some
local assemblies into the GAC...

Sometimes after a build, I would launch the web app and be presented with an
ASP.Net debug page claiming that a compilation error had occurred -
"MetaData file xxx.dll could not be found".  The dll was there though.  I
put the DLL into the GAC but still referenced it locally and I've not seen
either problem since.

HTH!

> I've been experiencing the same problems.
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