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Steve Schroeder - 13 Jun 2005 14:27 GMT

<bitch mode>

Laying out drop downlists, labels & text boxes sucks.

I spend more time pilly-farting around with position, relative, absolute,
GridLayout, FlowLayout, etc, than I do writing actual useful code.

</bitch mode>

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brander lien - 13 Jun 2005 17:49 GMT

"Steve Schroeder" <sschroeder@somewhere.com> wrote in message:

> Laying out drop downlists, labels & text boxes sucks.
>
> I spend more time pilly-farting around with position, relative, absolute,
> GridLayout, FlowLayout, etc, than I do writing actual useful code.

when do you think our titles will change from Software Engineer / Software
Developer to Layout Engineer / Layout Monkey? =)

cheers,
-b

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Steve Schroeder - 13 Jun 2005 18:14 GMT

If a raise comes with the title: 'Layout Monkey'...I'll take it, :)

> "Steve Schroeder" <sschroeder@somewhere.com> wrote in message:
> > Laying out drop downlists, labels & text boxes sucks.
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> cheers,
> -b

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clintonG - 13 Jun 2005 19:01 GMT

Actually, when VS2005 is 'officially' released this November customers and
moron middle managers are going to be hearing much more about Visual
Basic.NET requires writing 70% less code from Microsoft who will crank up
the volume.

To a very very limited extent it has proven true but will still I contend be
the beginning of the end because 'developers' really are being led by their
chain to become push-button monkeys and for the smart guy Steve I have a
little surprise.

When customers and moron middle managers hear 70% less code you can
guarantee they are going to start asking why they should continue paying
100% wage for 70% less code. Hello?

That's why I dumped on VB some time ago and got into C#. All the new
languages are being developed using legacy C syntax and grammar and VB is
without question monkey code.

Think I am full of it? Read this VB monkey talk...

Me.Hungry
Me.Want.Bannana

<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/

> If a raise comes with the title: 'Layout Monkey'...I'll take it, :)
>
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>> cheers,
>> -b

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Steve Schroeder - 13 Jun 2005 21:29 GMT

My current frustration has nothing to do with VB or C# and everything to do
with the IDE and laying out controls on a page. This would be an issue (for
me) whether or not the underlying code was C#, VB or some other language.

> Actually, when VS2005 is 'officially' released this November customers and
> moron middle managers are going to be hearing much more about Visual
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> >> cheers,
> >> -b

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stax - 14 Jun 2005 02:06 GMT

> <bitch mode>
>
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> </bitch mode>

good things take time :)

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