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Whidbey's VB.NET Edit & Continue feature

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Alex Schmidt - 30 Jul 2003 14:07 GMT
Whidbey's VB.NET: «... With the reintroduction of Edit and
Continue, developers will be able to modify and test
source code without stopping and restarting the debugging
session ...»

Will the VB.NET users the only ones who will benefit of
the Edit & Continue feature????

Will MS extend that feature to C# and J# languages?

I don't want to switch back to VB but I will if VB will be
the only language that will support that feature.
Edwin Schild - 30 Jul 2003 22:33 GMT
From what I understood from MS is that the Edit & Continue feature is a
feature in the .NET runtime so it will be available to all languages. But
that has been 2 years ago when they told me so things could have changed

Edwin
Whidbey's VB.NET: ?... With the reintroduction of Edit and
Continue, developers will be able to modify and test
source code without stopping and restarting the debugging
session ...?

Will the VB.NET users the only ones who will benefit of
the Edit & Continue feature????

Will MS extend that feature to C# and J# languages?

I don't want to switch back to VB but I will if VB will be
the only language that will support that feature.
Dino Chiesa [MSFT] - 01 Aug 2003 16:00 GMT
The current plan is that Visual C# will not support Edit-and-Continue in the
Whidbey timeframe.

We asked the C# Customer Council if they preferred more and better
refactoring, or Edit-and-Continue. They were very clear that they would
prefer better refactoring, so we went down that path.

It's true that the runtime supports EnC.  The question is, does the TOOL
support it?   and in Whidbey, the plan is the VB tool will support EnC,
while the VC# will offer better refactoring.  This is one example of the
greater distinction between the tools planned in the Whidbey timeframe.

This is what we mean when in the roadmap discussion we say
   "In Whidbey, Microsoft will expand upon the unique strengths of Visual
Basic,
   Visual C++, Visual C#, and Visual J# to provide a rich language offering
for
   developing a range of robust software in minimal time."

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.aspx#whidbey

Now I understand the reaction that some will have.  I am like you all, I
want all the features, in my preferred language and tool.  EnC is a
nice-to-have feature, it's valuable.  And believe me the product team at
Microsoft would like to deliver "everything".  But it becomes a challenge to
fit the features in the schedule.  To strike the right balance, we engage
with customer councils, very early on, to help define the way the vNext
products ought to look.  We place A LOT of weight on what they have to say -
they steer the boat.  And this is the direction they told us to take.

-Dino
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> From what I understood from MS is that the Edit & Continue feature is a
> feature in the .NET runtime so it will be available to all languages. But
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> I don't want to switch back to VB but I will if VB will be
> the only language that will support that feature.
Andrew - 12 Aug 2003 16:19 GMT
Uh,
My neighbor uses attach to process instead of launching with the "start"
button and claims to be able to re-build without stopping the debugger.

> The current plan is that Visual C# will not support Edit-and-Continue in the
> Whidbey timeframe.
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> > I don't want to switch back to VB but I will if VB will be
> > the only language that will support that feature.

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