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.NET Forum / Visual Studio.NET / General / July 2004How to get the Platform SDK and MSDN disks.
Hi guys, I have Visual C++ 6.0, and I just got a new Windows XP system, replacing my old Windows 98 box, which was 7 years old. Can I get the Platform SDK, DirectX, and MSDN disks without spending a fortune ? ( 100 dollars is a fortune for me ) I only have a cut-rate dial-up ISP, so I can't download gigabytes of data. I don't want to buy .NET, I'd like to keep using my VC6. You can download pretty much all you need to develop and compile various dotNet apps from microsoft. The SDK and command-line tools are available for free. Check out the MS linked user groups for dotNET too. There are a couple of very usable free IDEs, one is extremely usable. Regards, T. > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I don't want to buy .NET, I'd like to keep using my VC6. Hi Trevor Morris, You said, " The SDK and command-line tools are available for free. " That's really good news, thanks. But I want to keep using my MS VC6 IDE, and I have no interest in .NET, I just want to update my Platform SDK ( and related documents, DirectX too ) now that I've switched from Windows 98 to XP. Downloading is not an option for me. My ISP is very crappy, even for dial-up. ( It is gigabytes of data, after all ) Can I get some " Redistribution " disks ? Will they be hard to install for VC6 ? Hi Jeff Relf, I think you only can download the platform sdk online. Even they do send you, you need to pay for the transporation fees (example US -> Malaysia, need to pay some air flight money). Platform SDK: http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/ DirectX SDK: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/directx.asp MSDN: (i don't think so, best place refer online msdn.microsoft.com) For .NET, just download .net framework sdk. It is free. You can use additional editors like Antechinus C# Programming Editor or SharpDevelop or Snippet Compiler. Hope it helps!  SignatureRegards, Chua Wen Ching :) > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I don't want to buy .NET, I'd like to keep using my VC6. Hi Chua Wen Ching, You showed me the Platform SDK page: http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/ Thank you Very much, I think that's what I wanted. That page rejected my browser, FireFox .9, but going to IE6 and looking around, I was able to find the place to buy the CD's: http://qmedia.e-storefront.com/product.asp?productid=26 After paying state and _ Local _ taxes, the Microsoft Platform SDK, February 2003 Edition cost me 9.74 U.S. dollars ( Visa Debit card ). And it will be shipped via U.S. Mail ( USPS ). The SDK is described here: http://qmedia.e-storefront.com/showcontent.asp?contentname=PlatformSDKHome " This edition of the SDK supports development for the following platforms: Windows XP " ... " the system requirements for the Platform SDK: " ... " A C/C++ compiler ( Microsoft Visual C++ 6, Service Pack 6 or later ) to build C/C++ samples. " ... " you may reduce disk space usage by installing only the SDKs you need. " ... > " A C/C++ compiler > ( Microsoft Visual C++ 6, Service Pack 6 or later ) > to build C/C++ samples. " > ... > " you may reduce disk space usage > by installing only the SDKs you need. " Why don't you download the free/cheap m$ Express ides as well...they are stated as being free for 'hobbyists' VC++ Express, for example: http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx > ... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx What for? Coming from them in Beta format has to be pretty buggy. Signature--------------------------------- They made M$ windwoes to keep idiots away from UNIX. >> VC++ Express, for example: >> >> http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx > > What for? Coming from them in Beta format has to be pretty buggy. Even though most of you Advocates wouldn't dream of Macy's ( Linux ) suggesting Gimbels ( Microsoft ), I feel that if the customer needs something from them, I recommend it. Jeff just such a special case. Hi Ektachrome, You pointed out VC++ Express: http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx Where I read: " You can build Windows Forms, console, and class library applications. " I only build Win32 apps, What is a " class library application " ? I already have VC6, which already handles the most resent Platform SDK. Hi Jelf Relf, In C# term, class library application produces dll files. In C++ context, i think it able to product dll and static libraries (*.dll and *.lib). Normally you only can write code and build it. This class library cannot be run. Other apps will need to add references to it in order to test it. And express is running on .net framework 2.0 beta. Have fun. Hope it helps. SignatureRegards, Chua Wen Ching :) > Hi Ektachrome, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I already have VC6, > which already handles the most resent Platform SDK. Hi Chua Wen Ching, Re: If VC++ Express can access the Platform SDK... or if it can only create Windows Forms, console applications, and " class libraries " ( i.e. .DLL's, which I wouldn't call " applications " ). You explained, " In C# terms, class library applications produce dll files. In the C++ context, I think it's able to produce dlls and static libraries ( *.dll and *.lib ). Normally you only can write code and build it. This class library cannot be run. Other apps will need to add references to it in order to test it. And express is running on .net framework 2.0 beta. Have fun. Hope it helps. " Thank you Ching, You have been a great help to me. VC++ Express can't access the Platform SDK ? Wow. It's useless to me then. Hi Jeff Relf, I never tried to download the VC++ Express before. Only VisualC# Express and SQL Server Express (amazing). But i assume it can. As you can use visual studio .net 2003 to code unmanaged C++. I would prefer the new UI, coz it is more user friendly, maybe when you use it, don't thrust the intellisense too much, as it is not gears towards unmanaged environment. :) Hope it helps. Cheers. SignatureRegards, Chua Wen Ching :) > Hi Chua Wen Ching, > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > It's useless to me then. Hi Chua Wen Ching, Re: How VC++ Express is restricted to either: 1. .NET's virtual machine, i.e. the CLR, managed code. 2. Microsoft's console environment. 3. Windows' Forms environment. And Re: If VC++ Express can't access the Platform SDK. You wrote, " But i assume it can. As you can use visual studio .net 2003 to code unmanaged C++. " I see, Thanks for your explanation. I won't use VC++ Express, because I don't like any of those three environments. I prefer just using the plain ol' Platform SDK. Hi Jeff Relf, Okay, hope you can get the platform sdk, msdn as soon as possible. Just post here if you need any further help. Good Luck! Cheers. SignatureRegards, Chua Wen Ching :) > Hi Chua Wen Ching, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I prefer just using the plain ol' Platform SDK. Hi Chua Wen Ching, Thanks for your help. You wrote, " Okay, hope you can get the platform sdk, msdn as soon as possible. Just post here if you need any further help. Good Luck! Cheers. " Thanks Chua, I'm anxiously awaiting my copy of the Platform SDK as the Win98 version of RasAPI.LIB that I have ( for dial-up ) is missing bps statistics... and RasHangUp() is taking over 10 seconds to return. ( So now I call it inside a thread ) The Windows XP version of it should work much better, I hope. Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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