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Can VS2005 coexist with VS2008?

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Juan Dent - 21 Mar 2008 20:14 GMT
Hi,

Can we be carefree in installing VS2008 in the same machine (with XP SP2)
that has VS2005 SP1?
Will there be conflicts?

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Thanks in advance,

Juan Dent, M.Sc.

Norman Yuan - 21 Mar 2008 21:34 GMT
Yes, they can coexist. I have both installed plus VS2003.

> Hi,
>
> Can we be carefree in installing VS2008 in the same machine (with XP SP2)
> that has VS2005 SP1?
> Will there be conflicts?
Juan Dent - 21 Mar 2008 22:38 GMT
Okay. Is this the oficial position of Microsoft on the issue? Do we have a
guarantee from MS that installing VS2008 will not damage or alter our VS2005
environment or behavior?

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Thanks in advance,

Juan Dent, M.Sc.

> Yes, they can coexist. I have both installed plus VS2003.
>
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> > that has VS2005 SP1?
> > Will there be conflicts?
PvdG42 - 21 Mar 2008 23:05 GMT
> Okay. Is this the oficial position of Microsoft on the issue? Do we have a
> guarantee from MS that installing VS2008 will not damage or alter our
> VS2005
> environment or behavior?

You're asking for something that doesn't exist and never will. No software
publisher is going to "guarantee" that a software package won't cause an
issue when installed on a particular computer.
Think about what you are asking for.  How can the publisher test on all
possible configurations?

FWIW, I have both VS 2005 and VS 2008 on an XP SP2 machine, and on a Vista
SP1 and no issues have surfaced.
Scott M. - 23 Mar 2008 02:00 GMT
If you understand the premise of the .NET Framework, you'll know that this
is an irrelevant question.

The Frameworks don't interact with each other at all, they exist
side-by-side and do not share any codebases.

The same is true for the Visual Studio products.

-Scott

> Okay. Is this the oficial position of Microsoft on the issue? Do we have a
> guarantee from MS that installing VS2008 will not damage or alter our
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>> > that has VS2005 SP1?
>> > Will there be conflicts?
Scott M. - 23 Mar 2008 02:03 GMT
Slight correction.  I should not have said that the don't share any
code-bases.  What I meant was that there would be no code base in one that
would be modified by the other.

> If you understand the premise of the .NET Framework, you'll know that this
> is an irrelevant question.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>> > that has VS2005 SP1?
>>> > Will there be conflicts?
Sylvain Lafontaine - 23 Mar 2008 19:34 GMT
Sorry but unlike for the .NET Framework 1.1 and 2.0, the versions 2.0, 3.0
and 3.5 are not side by side installations: 3.5 is build over 3.0 and 3.0 is
itself build over 2.0; so 3.5 cannot exist without 3.0 and 3.0 cannot exist
without 2.0.  Furthermore, it's not 2.0 and 3.0 but 2.0 SP1 and 3.0 SP1 that
are required by 3.5; so if you want to have 3.5, you must have both 3.0 SP1
and 2.0 SP1 installed.

Even if VS 2008 can target 2.0 SP1 (and not 2.0), its installation requires
3.5; which means that 2.0 SP1 and 3.0 SP1 must also be installed.  For most
installations, this will not be a problem as 2.0 SP1 is already installed or
can be installed without any problem and VS2005 and VS2008 will then coexist
pacefully but for locations which are still at the 2.0 version - without the
SP1 - and don't want or can't upgrade, this will be a serious problem.

There is not relation between .NET 1.1 and 2.0+; so the installation of
VS2008 will not affect an installation of VS 2003 in any way.

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> If you understand the premise of the .NET Framework, you'll know that this
> is an irrelevant question.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>> > that has VS2005 SP1?
>>> > Will there be conflicts?
Steven Cheng - 24 Mar 2008 02:32 GMT
Hi Juan,

As for VS 2005 and VS 2008, side by side installing is offically
supported(also for former VS versions such as VS 2002 and VS 2003). Here is
the MSDN document on this:

#Installing Visual Studio Versions Side-by-Side
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms246609.aspx

Also, some other engineers has published some blog entry for some
particular scenarios you may encounter in side by side scenario:

#Link to an article about managing side-by-side file associations for
Visual Studio add-ins
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2007/06/22/3464822.aspx

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>Subject: Re: Can VS2005 coexist with VS2008?
>Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:38:05 -0700

>Okay. Is this the oficial position of Microsoft on the issue? Do we have a
>guarantee from MS that installing VS2008 will not damage or alter our VS2005
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>> > that has VS2005 SP1?
>> > Will there be conflicts?
schneider - 22 Mar 2008 02:09 GMT
I have VS2005 Pro and VS2008 Pro on my Win XP64 machine.

Over the history of the VS2003 and older I have had no problems.
It's hard to migrate otherwise...

Keep in mind that VS2008 can work on .NET 2.0 also.

Schneider

> Hi,
>
> Can we be carefree in installing VS2008 in the same machine (with XP SP2)
> that has VS2005 SP1?
> Will there be conflicts?
Scott M. - 24 Mar 2008 01:01 GMT
I don't think you need 3.0 to get 3.5.

>I have VS2005 Pro and VS2008 Pro on my Win XP64 machine.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> that has VS2005 SP1?
>> Will there be conflicts?
Juan Dent - 27 Mar 2008 23:14 GMT
Hi,

Considering the many replies I have gotten from my "innocent" question, and
the fact that some are almost contradictory to others, I am obliged to make a
constructive criticism to the newsgroup, all who contribute to it and the
Microsoft fellows who intervene to straighten up the bending branches.

First, it is really too bad that legitimate questions be laid off as non
sense. When one asks if VS2005 can coexist with VS2008 one is of course
asking for a substantial answer. While well meaning "I've had no problems
yet" answers are helpful, they are sure far from the question. Truly off and
very "superior sounding" when someone "answers" by saying how dumb it is to
ask the question, as in "Think about what you are asking for". Indeed, I have
thought about it and I know there are no absolute guarantees in software - or
life for that matter, that's what makes it a difficult question not an
invalid one, especially when asked properly ("Is this the official position
of Microsoft...?"). Certainly not very thankful for such a "profound"
contribution, if contribution at all.
Then comes the "belief in the propaganda" answer: should be easy to see how
irrelevant my question was, of course the .NET framework is the solution to
all problems and we should always take promises for facts.
This contributor is also questioning my question, believing that if
something is supposed to work one way, it surely will (wake up!).

A breath of fresh air: Sylvain Lafontaine comes with the first approximation
to a real answer - I guess the others just get paid by the number of replies
or just like to be noticed.
He (or she) points out things aren't as simple as the previous contributors
and reveals the interactions between the installations, to the point that
installing VS2008 implies placing the SP1 on .NET 2.0. Aha! This kind of
subtle under the covers interactions are the ones that break the promises and
bring the ugly surprises. It seems finally someone really knew what he/she
was talking about and placed a valuable answer with some depth to it. the
others were probably just bored.

So? Is this behavior what we want in our newsgroups? Basically: post a
question and get empty and sarcastic replies?

My proposal: let he who really has something to offer make a reply, let the
ones who think the question is absurd watch and learn: time will tell if it
was indeed absurd.

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Juan Dent, M.Sc.

> I don't think you need 3.0 to get 3.5.
>
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> >> that has VS2005 SP1?
> >> Will there be conflicts?
Steven Cheng [MSFT] - 28 Mar 2008 11:32 GMT
Hi Juan,

I can understand that some irrelevant replies make you feel unhappy.
However, I still think there are many community guys that are willing to
help us and contribute to the newsgroup. Or maybe sometimes different
person may have different standpoint or perspective(due to personality or
culture). Anyway, everyone is welcome to post questions in the community.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
msdnmg@microsoft.com.

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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>Subject: Re: Can VS2005 coexist with VS2008?
>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:14:00 -0700

>Hi,
>
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>> >> that has VS2005 SP1?
>> >> Will there be conflicts?
Juan Dent - 28 Mar 2008 18:10 GMT
Hi Steve,

Yes I agree with you that this is an open newsgroup and that is a good thing
and I really did not mean to limit that in any way.  It's just that I think
people should be more careful about labeling questions as (to exaggerate)
absurd. I understand that usually this comes out of a superficial vision of
the question.

Anyway, I think I got all the help on this issue, at least for now. I want
to thank you and the others who contributed valuable information.

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Juan Dent, M.Sc.

> Hi Juan,
>
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> >> >> that has VS2005 SP1?
> >> >> Will there be conflicts?
Scott M. - 29 Mar 2008 21:16 GMT
Hmmm.  I believe in the Garbage In...Garbage Out paradigm.

The quality of the answers you get, generally depend on the quality of the
question you ask.  Your original question was not definitive and very
general, hence the first replies you got.

-Scott

> Hi,
>
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>> >> that has VS2005 SP1?
>> >> Will there be conflicts?
Sylvain Lafontaine - 29 Mar 2008 21:19 GMT
Well, this is the nature of the beast: it's a public newsgroup(s), open to
all and even if its primary goal is to talk about technical issues; don't
expect that by posting a technical question, you will only get pure 100%
technical answers.

Like for any other newsgroup - and any other way of human communication -
you must be prepared to take the heat if you want to post a question here -
whatever its topic might be - and no discussion or reply will ever change
that.

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E-mail: sylvain aei ca (fill the blanks, no spam please)

> Hi,
>
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>> >> that has VS2005 SP1?
>> >> Will there be conflicts?

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