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Andy Coates - 09 Feb 2006 17:54 GMT

The visualisers in the new version of devstudio are great, except I still
need a way of accessing the underlying structure.

I'm a C++ developer, not a VB one. I can handle seeing my safearrays full
of cDims and rgabounds.

These new visualisers are particularly annoying when they fail. Today I was
debugging a crash that happens when destroying a safearray of UDTs when
running native on 64bit OS. The visualiser doesn't handle safearrays of
UDTs. The watch windows gives me a safe array of five elements of 'error, 0,
int'. Not much use when I know the array has over 500 elements of UDTs.

Visualisers are great - making the language that little bit more accessable
to beginners and helping us more experienced folk in our day to day coding,
but don't hide the details away - all us to access them though a little '+
raw date' expandable item or something....

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"Gary Chang[MSFT]" - 10 Feb 2006 06:01 GMT

Hi Andy,

I got your concerns, I will forward this feedback to our product team for
review.

Meantime, I highly suggest you can also submit this feedback to our product
feedback center:

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/productfeedback/default.aspx

Thanks for your understanding!

Best regards,

Gary Chang
Microsoft Community Support
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Andy Coates - 10 Feb 2006 10:34 GMT

Thanks, will do.

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"Gary Chang[MSFT]" - 13 Feb 2006 05:50 GMT

You are welcome, Andy.:)

Godd Luck!

Best regards,

Gary Chang
Microsoft Community Support
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Stuart Carnie - 16 Feb 2006 23:47 GMT

> The visualisers in the new version of devstudio are great, except I still
> need a way of accessing the underlying structure.
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> but don't hide the details away - all us to access them though a little '+
> raw date' expandable item or something....

Actually, you can show the raw structure - when you add the variable to
the watch-window, include the "raw format specifier", which is '!', so
if my SAFEARRAY is call pSA, add the following text to your watch window:

pSA,!

Cheers,

Stu

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