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Jonathan Kay - 04 Apr 2008 04:12 GMT

Hi,

I'd like to my WCF webservice to work both on SSL and without. Unfortunately searching has
led to dead ends, references to changes that only work on the old previous beta versions and
I admit I am rather confused and frustrated.

That being said, I'd like some direction in how exactly I'm supposed to accomplish this.

Thanks very much,
JK

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Steven Cheng [MSFT] - 04 Apr 2008 06:59 GMT

Hi Jonathan,

From your description, you're going to expose your WCF service via both SSL
and non-SSL channel, correct?

Are you going to use SSL over Http(the most common and convenient
approach)? For non-SSL, I think it is quite straightforward, and what you
need to do is adding a new service endponit that use https/ssl based
address. If hosting in IIS is possible, I recommend you host the https/ssl
one in IIS since that can make the SSL/HTTPS configuration much more
convenient. Here are some reference about configuring SSL/HTTPS in IIS:

#On IIS 6.0, how do I configure my website to use SSL?
http://www.petri.co.il/configure_ssl_on_your_website_with_iis.htm

#Configuring SSL on a Web Server or Web Site (IIS 6.0)
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/5
6bdf977-14f8-4867-9c51-34c346d48b04.mspx?mfr=true

Sure, https/ssl can be used out of IIS based on the new http.sys component
in windows and WCF can also uitlize it. However, it will require much more
configuration which is complex. Here are some reference mentioned about
configurating HTTPS in self-hosted context:

#Configuring HTTP and HTTPS
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms733768.aspx

#WCF example: Using of self-hosted service with SSL
http://developers.de/blogs/damir_dobric/archive/2006/08/01/897.aspx

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From: "Jonathan Kay" <jonathankay@newsgroup.nospam>
Subject: WCF webservice over SSL and without
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 23:12:13 -0400

Hi,

I'd like to my WCF webservice to work both on SSL and without.
Unfortunately searching has
led to dead ends, references to changes that only work on the old previous
beta versions and
I admit I am rather confused and frustrated.

That being said, I'd like some direction in how exactly I'm supposed to
accomplish this.

Thanks very much,
JK

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Jonathan Kay - 04 Apr 2008 17:58 GMT

Thank you Steven. Yes I am going to use the IIS method and I do have it already setup for
that. I'm also familiar with how to setup a secure site in IIS. Additionally, I've also
configured the older ASMX webservices over https via IIS before.

However, with this WCF webservice, if I hit the .svc file via IE using the
https://server/service.svc link it spits back a http link reference to the WSDL.
Even if I rewrite the URL as https://server/services.svc?WSDL, it just sends me to the
initial page with the http wsdl link.

Surely that can't be right?

I'm assuming there's some point of endpoint configuration I need to do. That's the part I'm
missing/confused about.
-JK

> Hi Jonathan,
>
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> Thanks very much,
> JK

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Tiago Halm - 05 Apr 2008 01:25 GMT

Jonathan,

It depends on the binding you're using - basicHttpBinding or wsHttpBinding -
and on the security mode you're using - Message or Transport.

If basicHttpBinding or wsHttpBinding and security mode as transport, then
its quite similar to an ASMX WebService. If wsHttpBinding, then all the
encryption/signature is handled by SOAP instead of HTTP (IIS) and should be
configured in the configuration file.

Anyway, have a look at the common securtity scenarios and see where your
fits:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms730301.aspx

Afterwards, and if you still have difficulty setting it up, let us know and
we'll give you a hand.

Tiago Halm

> Thank you Steven. Yes I am going to use the IIS method and I do have it
> already setup for that. I'm also familiar with how to setup a secure site
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>> Thanks very much,
>> JK

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Steven Cheng [MSFT] - 07 Apr 2008 04:16 GMT

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for your reply. Based on your further description, you have setup
the SSL correctly in IIS server, but encountered some problem visit the WCF
service's metadata page, correct?

I've also performed some test on my local side and I think the following
setting should be the cause of the problem:

#<serviceMetadata>
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms731317.aspx

For WCF service, you need to use <serviceMetadata> behavior to specify how
your service's metadata can be visited by client-side. By default, in the
autogenerated service configuration, "httpGetEnabled" is true. However, you
also need to enable "httpsGet" since you'll use https/ssl.

Here is the behavior setting used in my test WCF service. after enable
"httpsGet" , you should be able to visit the WSDL document via https
correctly.

=========================
<behaviors>
<serviceBehaviors>
<behavior name="ServiceBehavior">

<serviceMetadata httpGetEnabled="true" httpsGetEnabled="true" />

</behavior>
............
==========================

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

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Subject: Re: WCF webservice over SSL and without
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:58:48 -0400

Thank you Steven. Yes I am going to use the IIS method and I do have it
already setup for
that. I'm also familiar with how to setup a secure site in IIS.
Additionally, I've also
configured the older ASMX webservices over https via IIS before.

However, with this WCF webservice, if I hit the .svc file via IE using the
https://server/service.svc link it spits back a http link reference to the
WSDL.
Even if I rewrite the URL as https://server/services.svc?WSDL, it just
sends me to the
initial page with the http wsdl link.

Surely that can't be right?

I'm assuming there's some point of endpoint configuration I need to do.
That's the part I'm
missing/confused about.
-JK

> Hi Jonathan,
>
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>
> #Configuring SSL on a Web Server or Web Site (IIS 6.0)

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/5

> 6bdf977-14f8-4867-9c51-34c346d48b04.mspx?mfr=true
>
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> Thanks very much,
> JK

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Steven Cheng [MSFT] - 09 Apr 2008 10:28 GMT

Hi Jonathan,

Have you got any progress on this or does the suggestion in my last reply
help some?

Sincerely,

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Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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Subject: Re: WCF webservice over SSL and without
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:58:48 -0400

Thank you Steven. Yes I am going to use the IIS method and I do have it
already setup for
that. I'm also familiar with how to setup a secure site in IIS.
Additionally, I've also
configured the older ASMX webservices over https via IIS before.

However, with this WCF webservice, if I hit the .svc file via IE using the
https://server/service.svc link it spits back a http link reference to the
WSDL.
Even if I rewrite the URL as https://server/services.svc?WSDL, it just
sends me to the
initial page with the http wsdl link.

Surely that can't be right?

I'm assuming there's some point of endpoint configuration I need to do.
That's the part I'm
missing/confused about.
-JK

> Hi Jonathan,
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> #Configuring SSL on a Web Server or Web Site (IIS 6.0)

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/5

http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/managednewsgroups/default.aspx#notif

> ications.
>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Thanks very much,
> JK

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Jonathan Kay - 25 Apr 2008 01:39 GMT

Hi Steven and Tiago,

Sorry for the late response, I've been away for a bit and this got put on the backburner.

Thanks to both of you, I've managed to get https working (almost). I think perhaps I'm still
doing something wrong?

After adding httpsGetEnabled="true, it works beautifully, however, it spits out
https://machinename/filename.svc?wsdl which won't work from the public internet.

So to change this, among the other things I've attempted, I tried using httpsGetUrl and was
presented with this:
A registration already exists for URI 'https://machinename/file.svc'.

I've tried other things (baseAddress, etc.) and none of it seems to change it...

Thanks,
JK

> Hi Jonathan,
>
[quoted text clipped - 133 lines]
>> Thanks very much,
>> JK

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Steven Cheng [MSFT] - 25 Apr 2008 05:56 GMT

Thanks for your followup JK,

So the problem seems due to the the public internet can not directly get
into your server machien via the servername. is there a public accessible
DNS address for the server so that external network can visit it?

Based on my research, for IIS hosted WCF environment, it will be hard to
customize the metadata exchange endpoints. I think you can consider the
following mean to expose the WCF service's metadata:

1. You can host the same service on another public accessible server and it
is only used to expose the metadata for the client to download. also, for
that service, you do not need to use HTTPS/SSL

2. WCF provide a svcutil.exe that can help download the metadata of a
service to local files. You can use it to download the metadata to local
files and republish them via a public accessible server. BTW, you need to
open the wsdl document and change some urls in it since the default values
are still pointing to the original server address(the machinename for your
case):

#ServiceModel Metadata Utility Tool (Svcutil.exe)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa347733.aspx

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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Subject: Re: WCF webservice over SSL and without
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:39:14 -0400

Hi Steven and Tiago,

Sorry for the late response, I've been away for a bit and this got put on
the backburner.

Thanks to both of you, I've managed to get https working (almost). I think
perhaps I'm still
doing something wrong?

After adding httpsGetEnabled="true, it works beautifully, however, it spits
out
https://machinename/filename.svc?wsdl which won't work from the public
internet.

So to change this, among the other things I've attempted, I tried using
httpsGetUrl and was
presented with this:
A registration already exists for URI 'https://machinename/file.svc'.

I've tried other things (baseAddress, etc.) and none of it seems to change
it...

Thanks,
JK

> Hi Jonathan,
>
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>> #Configuring SSL on a Web Server or Web Site (IIS 6.0)

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/5

>> 6bdf977-14f8-4867-9c51-34c346d48b04.mspx?mfr=true
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Jonathan Kay - 25 Apr 2008 17:08 GMT

Thanks, but I know how to do all that. Http works fine (because I set a host header with the
correct public host name), this is just https that's the problem...

I simply want to customize the machinename in https://machinename/file.svc?wsdl output on
https when going to the service.

-JK

> Thanks for your followup JK,
>
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>>> Thanks very much,
>>> JK

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Steven Cheng [MSFT] - 28 Apr 2008 11:15 GMT

Thanks for your reply Jonathan,

I'll perform some further research to see whether there is still any other
means helpful. I'll update you if I get any new results.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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Subject: Re: WCF webservice over SSL and without
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:08:53 -0400

Thanks, but I know how to do all that. Http works fine (because I set a
host header with the
correct public host name), this is just https that's the problem...

I simply want to customize the machinename in
https://machinename/file.svc?wsdl output on
https when going to the service.

-JK

> Thanks for your followup JK,
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>>> #Configuring SSL on a Web Server or Web Site (IIS 6.0)

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/5

>>> 6bdf977-14f8-4867-9c51-34c346d48b04.mspx?mfr=true
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>>> Thanks very much,
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Steven Cheng [MSFT] - 29 Apr 2008 03:34 GMT

Hi Jonathan,

Here are some further information I've got. The url address display on the
service description does be changable. We can change it by customizing the
servicehost's base address. For IIS hosted scenario, we need to register a
ServiceHostFactory for the service like below:

=======apply the service factory type in @ServiceHost
directive================
<%@ ServiceHost Language="C#" Debug="true" Service="Service"
Factory="WCFExtensionLib.MyServiceHostFactory"
CodeBehind="~/App_Code/Service.cs" %>

===========create the custom servicehost factory class===============

namespace WCFExtensionLib
{
public class MyServiceHostFactory :ServiceHostFactory
{
protected override System.ServiceModel.ServiceHost
CreateServiceHost(Type serviceType, Uri[] baseAddresses)
{

Uri[] addrs = new Uri[2];
addrs[0] = new Uri("http://138129m/WCFSVC/service.svc");
addrs[1] = new Uri("https://138129m/WCFSVC/service.svc");

return base.CreateServiceHost(serviceType, addrs);
}
}
}
=======================

BTW, the address you supplied should match the service.svc(svc file)'s
real virtual path so that the client consumer can reach the svc file via
that path, otherwise, it will not work.

Hope this also helps some.

Sincerely,

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Thanks for your reply Jonathan,

I'll perform some further research to see whether there is still any other
means helpful. I'll update you if I get any new results.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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Subject: Re: WCF webservice over SSL and without
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:08:53 -0400

Thanks, but I know how to do all that. Http works fine (because I set a
host header with the
correct public host name), this is just https that's the problem...

I simply want to customize the machinename in
https://machinename/file.svc?wsdl output on
https when going to the service.

-JK

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> Thanks for your followup JK,
>
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>
> 1. You can host the same service on another public accessible server and

> is only used to expose the metadata for the client to download. also, for
> that service, you do not need to use HTTPS/SSL
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> ications.
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>
> Thanks to both of you, I've managed to get https working (almost). I

think

> perhaps I'm still
> doing something wrong?
>
> After adding httpsGetEnabled="true, it works beautifully, however, it

spits

> out
> https://machinename/filename.svc?wsdl which won't work from the public
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>> However, with this WCF webservice, if I hit the .svc file via IE using

the

>> https://server/service.svc link it spits back a http link reference to

the

>> WSDL.
>> Even if I rewrite the URL as https://server/services.svc?WSDL, it just
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>>> Are you going to use SSL over Http(the most common and convenient
>>> approach)? For non-SSL, I think it is quite straightforward, and what

you

>>> need to do is adding a new service endponit that use https/ssl based
>>> address. If hosting in IIS is possible, I recommend you host the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>>
>>> #Configuring SSL on a Web Server or Web Site (IIS 6.0)

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/5

http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/managednewsgroups/default.aspx#notif

>>> ications.
>>>
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>>> Thanks very much,
>>> JK

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