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VS2008 and WSE3

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Howard Hoffman - 20 Nov 2007 22:18 GMT
We've a .set of NET2 / ASP.NET2 / WSE3 based products, and we're beginning
to contemplate moving to .NET 3.5 now that VS 2008 is RTM.

Will a .NET2 / ASP.NET2 / WSE3 application build within VS2008?  I'm
imagining there are bug fixes in the .NET core classes in .NET 3.5; in
addition to some new features that might be useful to us.

We've some custom WSE3 PolicyAssertions that I imagine will need to be
restructured into the WCF equivalent.  Before we start restructuring our
WSE3 Policy Assertions, our question is whether the app will build / run at
all from VS2008.

Thanks in advance,

Howard Hoffman
Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 21 Nov 2007 03:37 GMT
Hi Howard,

From your description, you're planning to move your existing VS 2005/WSE
3.0 based webservice project to VS 2008.

For the upgrade plan, here are some of my understanding and suggestion:

Though VS 2008/.NET 3.5(also 3.0) provide new libraries and components,
however, they're not quite aim at WSE or webservice. For WSE, the 3.0 one
with .net framework 2.0 is the current latest version and if your
application want to continue be a webservice that secured through WSE 3.0,
I think you should keep it with .net framework/WSE 3.0, there hasn't any
particular benefit to upgrade it. And WSE 3.0 still haven't notes about the
compatibility with .NET 3.5 framework.

Also, you mentioned WCF, yes, it's one of the added components in .NEt 3.0.
And as a unified communication framework on windows, it provide a unified
and compatible programming model for developing distributed service. And if
you do want to update your webservice application to WCF application, then
it would be a good reason to use VS 2008.  

So would you let me know what your actual plan is here?

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead



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From: "Howard Hoffman" <Howard.Hoffman@community.nospam>
Subject: VS2008 and WSE3
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:18:35 -0500

We've a .set of NET2 / ASP.NET2 / WSE3 based products, and we're beginning
to contemplate moving to .NET 3.5 now that VS 2008 is RTM.

Will a .NET2 / ASP.NET2 / WSE3 application build within VS2008?  I'm
imagining there are bug fixes in the .NET core classes in .NET 3.5; in
addition to some new features that might be useful to us.

We've some custom WSE3 PolicyAssertions that I imagine will need to be
restructured into the WCF equivalent.  Before we start restructuring our
WSE3 Policy Assertions, our question is whether the app will build / run at
all from VS2008.

Thanks in advance,

Howard Hoffman
Tim Mackey - 21 Nov 2007 12:53 GMT
hi Howard,
i have a winforms client (.net 2) connecting to a WSE 3 webservice hosted on
asp.net v2, using a CustomUsernameTokenManager.   the project compiled and
ran no problem in VS 2008.  you don't get the WSE menu item in the VS
project context menu for configuring WSE because WSE only seems to look for
VS 2005.
in a very basic sense, WSE is Microsoft.Web.Services3.dll, and it will work
just like any DLL reference.
hope this helps
tim

> We've a .set of NET2 / ASP.NET2 / WSE3 based products, and we're beginning
> to contemplate moving to .NET 3.5 now that VS 2008 is RTM.
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> Howard Hoffman
Howard Hoffman - 23 Nov 2007 23:49 GMT
Tim -

Yes, that does help and make sense.   However, I've a further question.

One thing I've never been able to figure out is the specific command-line
options for wse3wsdl that the VS 2005 IDE uses when you 'Add Web Reference'
or 'Update Web Reference' on a project that is using WSE3 (via the WSE3
Properties context menu option).

Assuming that we switched to the VS2008 IDE for our WSE3-using project(s),
any guesses on what the proper wse3wsdl syntax would be for generating the
Reference.map/cs / disco / datasource / etc files?

Thanks,

Howard Hoffman

> hi Howard,
> i have a winforms client (.net 2) connecting to a WSE 3 webservice hosted
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>> Howard Hoffman
Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 26 Nov 2007 02:57 GMT
Hi Howard,

Since VS 2008 IDE does not work with the WSE 3.0 add-in, the "Add Web
Reference" function will not create the WSE specific proxy as in VS 2005.
You'll also need to execute the wse3wsdl.exe tool in commandline to create
the proxy class. To make it executable, you need to make sure the
Microsoft.web.services.dll has been installed into GAC(or put in the
directory those utilities can locate when executing).

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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From: "Howard Hoffman" <howard.a.hoffman@worldnet.att.net>
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Subject: Re: VS2008 and WSE3
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:49:36 -0500

Tim -

Yes, that does help and make sense.   However, I've a further question.

One thing I've never been able to figure out is the specific command-line
options for wse3wsdl that the VS 2005 IDE uses when you 'Add Web Reference'
or 'Update Web Reference' on a project that is using WSE3 (via the WSE3
Properties context menu option).

Assuming that we switched to the VS2008 IDE for our WSE3-using project(s),
any guesses on what the proper wse3wsdl syntax would be for generating the
Reference.map/cs / disco / datasource / etc files?

Thanks,

Howard Hoffman

> hi Howard,
> i have a winforms client (.net 2) connecting to a WSE 3 webservice hosted
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>> Howard Hoffman
Howard Hoffman - 26 Nov 2007 14:18 GMT
Understood -- must execute the wsewsdl3 tool and make sure that
Microsoft.web.services.dll is accessible.  Thanks Steven

Further question -- what ws3wsdl3 command options does one use to mimic the
output of the VS 2005 'Add Web Reference' UI gesture.

For example, I note that adding a web reference (if you're using WSE3) seems
to run both wsdl.exe and wsewsdl3.exe from inside VS 2005.

I'm trying to find out what the combined (wsdl / wsewsdl3) options are, so
that I can use VS 2008 while keeping my WSE3 code in place for the time
being.

Thanks,

Howard

> Hi Howard,
>
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>>>
>>> Howard Hoffman
Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 27 Nov 2007 08:38 GMT
Hi Howard,

For the VS 2005 built-in "Add Web Reference" function here, I'm afraid we
are somewhat no luck here. The reason why the Add Web Reference will call
both wsdl.exe and wsewsdl.exe is because WSE 3.0 setup has installed add-in
into the VS 2005. So far this add-in is not available to us, therefore, we
can not simply copy it into VS 2008.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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From: "Howard Hoffman" <Howard.Hoffman@community.nospam>
Subject: Re: VS2008 and WSE3
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:18:58 -0500

Understood -- must execute the wsewsdl3 tool and make sure that
Microsoft.web.services.dll is accessible.  Thanks Steven

Further question -- what ws3wsdl3 command options does one use to mimic the
output of the VS 2005 'Add Web Reference' UI gesture.

For example, I note that adding a web reference (if you're using WSE3)
seems
to run both wsdl.exe and wsewsdl3.exe from inside VS 2005.

I'm trying to find out what the combined (wsdl / wsewsdl3) options are, so
that I can use VS 2008 while keeping my WSE3 code in place for the time
being.

Thanks,

Howard

> Hi Howard,
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>>> Howard Hoffman

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