Do you .NET framework to run a C++2005 application?

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Johnny - 28 Dec 2004 22:07 GMT

I am curious to find out whether the .NET framework is actually needed to run
a C++ 2005 application. I know in other languages such as C# and VB.NET, it
is a must or else it wont run, but for some reason I get the feeling this is
not the case (at least not all the time) with C++.NET.

Also, what is ATL and it's purpose?

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Fredrik Wahlgren - 28 Dec 2004 22:13 GMT

> I am curious to find out whether the .NET framework is actually needed to run
> a C++ 2005 application. I know in other languages such as C# and VB.NET, it
> is a must or else it wont run, but for some reason I get the feeling this is
> not the case (at least not all the time) with C++.NET.
>
> Also, what is ATL and it's purpose?

You will only need the .NET framework if you create managed code. ATL is a
framework that lets you create COM dll's among other things. It's something
that you should use if you make something like an Office COM add-in.

/ Fredrik

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Carl Daniel [VC++ MVP] - 28 Dec 2004 22:13 GMT

>I am curious to find out whether the .NET framework is actually needed to
>run
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> is
> not the case (at least not all the time) with C++.NET.

It's needed if you use it, not needed if you don't use it. That's one of
the key advantages of C++ - the ability to generate a native (not .NET)
application.

> Also, what is ATL and it's purpose?

ATL is a class library primarily for creating COM components (although it
does branch out into other areas too). You didn't ask, but WTL is a
windowing library (written by MS) built on top of ATL that you can get from
wtl.sourceforge.net.

-cd

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Johnny - 28 Dec 2004 22:29 GMT

Hmmm. OK, that makes sense. Thanks for your help.

One other question: I am an expert in C# and am considering venturing to
C++, using the 2005 beta version. I design + develop a lot of n-tier
applications in .NET for web, consoles, etc. What advice can anyone give for
someone in my position?

> >I am curious to find out whether the .NET framework is actually needed to
> >run
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> -cd

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Fredrik Wahlgren - 28 Dec 2004 22:56 GMT

> Hmmm. OK, that makes sense. Thanks for your help.
>
> One other question: I am an expert in C# and am considering venturing to
> C++, using the 2005 beta version. I design + develop a lot of n-tier
> applications in .NET for web, consoles, etc. What advice can anyone give for
> someone in my position?

It seems as if VS 2005 will be much easier to use if you want to migrate C#
code to C++. In fact, I think there may be programs that will convert the
code automatically. The articles that I have read suggest that VC++ is the
preferred .NET language in VS 2005.

/ Fedrik

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Sylvain Lafontaine - 30 Dec 2004 16:20 GMT

My advice: stay in C# if you have never ventured into C++ before; otherwise
you will lose your time battling with bugs that will take you years to
understand.

S. L.

> Hmmm. OK, that makes sense. Thanks for your help.
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>> -cd

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