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Hi, does anybody know where I can find an IL-editor ? thnx Chris anything can be an il editor... you probably mean disassembler or decompiler? do a google for "reflector". > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Chris In your c:\windows\ directory It is called Notepad.exe > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Chris ...the first programming environment for the Microsoft Intermediate Language (MSIL) in which the .NET Framework is based. With this program, you will be able to decompile executables and libraries based on the Microsoft .NET Framework to see how they work or write your own ones in the most optimized language for this platform. http://ilide.europe.webmatrixhosting.net/  SignatureFF www.francofigun.com.ar www.microsofties.com.ar UIN: 305336919 MSN: francofigun@hotmail.com > In your c:\windows\ directory > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Chris > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Chris Chris, have a look at LSW DotNet-Lab ( www.lesser-software.com/lswdnl.htm ). It comes with an MSIL-Editor you can edit MSIL on a binary level ( e.g deleting statements from methods / deleting methods from classes ). We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html LSW DotNet-Lab is not released yet - there exist an old Prerelease dated 06/16/2003. The new version is based on a new Smalltalk Virtual-Machine & a new GUI Library we hop to release it very soon. regards, Frank I'm using ILDASM + my favourite text editor + color coding. I've also seen a free VS add-in for IL at GotDotNet Workspaces. Frank, your screenshot is nice but so far your app has been crashing on any machine I tested it with. Worse, I cant uninstall it either. Furthermore, the "we will ship these features anytime soon" messages you are posting for almost a year now are quite annoying. Why do you need a team of people to write your own runtime and language to finally come up with a commercial clone of .NET Reflector? > > Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > deleting statements from methods / deleting methods from classes ). > We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ > 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > regards, Frank Jason, you are right, we are behind our schedule. I am sorry for that trouble with the uninstall. Just delete the exe and the shortcuts manually - there is nothing left on your computer - we will document it. There is a problem in RC6 with LSWDNRB.ini and assemblyCachesRootDir - just edit it manually and point it to a valid location. No our tool is **not** a clone of the reflector - it has very different features. Also decompiling is something which can have very different quality - we focus to have the best which takes time. But the real delays where the necessary decision to extend our Smalltalk VM for preparation to Longhorn , to use our new Unicode GUI fraework etc. The important thing is because we are running outside the CLR we have distinguished features ( we can load/unload assemblies without having them locked ). We don't need a specific exe for different framework versions etc. Finally we will publish a very exciting tool has a lot of features ( UML Diagrams / Obfuscator / Binary Assembly editor ) is extended continuosly and will work accross all .Net Frameworks. Also it will work under Linux. Our Smalltalk VM allows us to create tools where ** Debug and continue ** is a natural feature / Classes can be changed without loosing instances of the class etc. regards, Frank > I'm using ILDASM + my favourite text editor + color coding. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > deleting statements from methods / deleting methods from classes ). > > We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ > > 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > regards, Frank I have to agree with Jason. It is a clone. Given that your tool is infinitely more expensive you should have better arguments than what you mentioned below. Take a look at Reflector 4.0 which is available at http://aisto.com/roeder/dotnet. It loads and unloads assemblies, works with different framework versions (including Whidbey) and I have no idea what you mean with "different quality" of the decompiler. > Jason, > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > > deleting statements from methods / deleting methods from classes ). > > > We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ > > > 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html > > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > > > regards, Frank Chris, Better discuss further if we have published - will be very soon. BTW we are finnishing decompilation of Managed C++, obfuscator & binary assembly editor are included And decompilation quality means that we are able to decompile almost all code which contain complex control structures. The GUI is multiwindow with a lot of different viewmodes. We have also UML Diagrams & Visual Syntax for C# / MSIL we are working on a script language which allows you to exeecute code direct in a Workspace. decompilation of unmanaged code ( www.lesser-software.com/lswbl.htm ) will also be included in a later version. Frank > I have to agree with Jason. It is a clone. Given that your tool is > infinitely more expensive you should have better arguments than what you [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > > > deleting statements from methods / deleting methods from classes ). > > > > We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ > > > > 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html > > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > > > > > regards, Frank My point is that your app is cloning Reflector, you're saying you have a clone with some additional features ready soon. Have you thought about adding UML stuff as Reflector add-in? The obfuscator should be a standalone tool anyway and there are lots of them. Also, I wonder why you're writing your own script language. Why not have a managed C# API? Beyond that, good luck with your release. > Chris, > Better discuss further if we have published - will be very soon. BTW we are [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > > > > deleting statements from methods / deleting methods from classes ). > > > > > We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ > > > > > 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > > > > > > > regards, Frank Hi Chris, I don't like the word clone because it doesn't reflect what we are doing. Smalltalk book from the mid 70ies ( Smalltalk 72 ) does contain a System Browser - so we can say the Relector is a clone of these Smalltalk - Browsers And we didn't even look at Reflector if we created our Browser. We tried to "clone" the Smalltalk-Browser for .NET And I think Reflector and our Browser are very different in the GUI philosophy. Our concept is very different from Reflector - we have build everything on top of our Smalltalk - and we are very happy with it. The UML stuff is based on a huge Graph-Rendering Library which would be very difficult to port from Smalltalk to C#. And why we should enhance the Reflector. We are very busy to enhance our own Browser. > My point is that your app is cloning Reflector, you're saying you have a > clone with some additional features ready soon. Have you thought about [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > classes ). > > > > > > We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ > > > > > > 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html > > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, Frank Chris,, I hit the Return key to earaly - anyway returning to the work - will see if we have published the browser... regards , Frank > Hi Chris, > [quoted text clipped - 149 lines] > > classes ). > > > > > > > We have added Graphical MSIL - see an example. http://www.lesser-software.com/images/Screenshots/LSW_DotNet_Tools/LSW-DNRB/ > > > > > > > 1.3/HTML-VML/SeparationSample.html > > > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, Frank
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