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Every now and then when I go on my form in the IDE the form goes blank and the computer grinds away for 10 or 20 seconds and then everything reaapears. What exactly is the computer doing and is there a way to prevent this from happening yeah go back to Vb6 sorry this dotnet crap is half-baked still and yet; they sit there and work on selling us the next greatest edition instead of fixing bugs piece of sh.t company, MIcrosoft deserves to get it's a.s kicked in the open market On Feb 13, 4:11 pm, B...@msn.com wrote: > Every now and then when I go on my form in the IDE the form goes blank > and the computer grinds away for 10 or 20 seconds and then everything > reaapears. What exactly is the computer doing and is there a way to > prevent this from happening > Every now and then when I go on my form in the IDE the form goes blank > and the computer grinds away for 10 or 20 seconds and then everything > reaapears. What exactly is the computer doing and is there a way to > prevent this from happening VS.NET 2005? Do you have SP1 installed? The lockup could be due to a lack of memory as well ... the PC maybe swapping data in or out of the swap file. >> Every now and then when I go on my form in the IDE the form goes blank >> and the computer grinds away for 10 or 20 seconds and then everything [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The lockup could be due to a lack of memory as well ... the PC maybe > swapping data in or out of the swap file. I have this problem as well, and I have 2GB of memory. It pretty much happens whenever I bring up a form in design mode. I just figured it was an opportunity for me to learn patience? Robin S. ROBIN HOLY f.cking HELL WHO DO YOU THIKN THAT YOU ARE YOU ADMIT THAT DOTNET IDE IS HALF BAKED? GROW SOME BALLS, WUSSES; MS GAVE UP ON VB AND ONLY IF WE HAVE A CONCERTED DEMONSTRATION OF OUTRAGE WILL WE GET ANYTHING DONE ABOUT IT MY IDE VS 2005 PROFESSIONAL CRASHES TWO TIMES A DAY DID SP1 HELP?? _NO_ FUK MS > > B...@msn.com wrote innews:fqk4t29a5rac34bn85gkhu0jpmho95fvae@4ax.com: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Robin S. No, I think what I said what my IDE hangs for a few seconds when I try to open a form in design mode. I don't think it's ever crashed on me, and I'd hardly throw the whole thing out just because it hangs every now and then. Robin S. --------------------------------------------------- > ROBIN > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> Robin S. robin if your hammer was broken would you go and get a different one? I sure would grow some balls babe > No, I think what I said what my IDE hangs for a few seconds when I try to > open a form in design mode. I don't think it's ever crashed on me, and I'd [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Robin you should not accept mediocrity not when they have $60bn in cash and spend all their precious money on inventing Xbox and fighting the BluRay vs HDDVD war TIME FOR MS TO FOCUS ON VB DO IT NOW OR FIGHT ME FOREVER > No, I think what I said what my IDE hangs for a few seconds when I try to > open a form in design mode. I don't think it's ever crashed on me, and I'd [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Robin WHY DO YOU SUPPORT A COMPANY THAT IS TOO BUSY MAKING XBOXES IN ORDER TO TAKE VB SERIOUSLY? AN IDE THAT HANGS AND CRASHES IS NOT -- I REPEAT-- _NOT_ ACCEPTABLE a language that is TWICE AS VERBOSE, ONE QUARTER THE FUNCTIONALITY AND PRONE TO FURTHER 'VISUAL FRED ACTIONS' is _NOT_ acceptable grow some balls you kids need to stop sucking MS cock On Feb 13, 11:22 pm, pfc_s...@hotmail.com wrote: > Robin > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Although this guy is a little bit harsh, he speaks the truth - MS VS 2005 truly is a mediocre piece of software. Sure, it's a fully integrated environment, having intellisense for multiple languages, database support, version control, web development tools, and much more. But this does deny the fact that it also comes WITH RESOURCE LEAKS!! And plenty of them. I don't about you, but I don't think that 4 GB of RAM should be considered a minimum for a program that is basically a text editor with a compiler. thanks man everyone calls me a flamer; but at least i don't sell products that crash every single day and run like crap with even 2gb ram thanks a ton man On Feb 22, 5:47 am, axe...@gmail.com wrote: > Although this guy is a little bit harsh, he speaks the truth - MS VS > 2005 truly is a mediocre [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > considered a minimum > for a program that is basically a text editor with a compiler. axel22@gmail.com wrote in news:1172152043.601810.165360 @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com: > But > this does deny the fact that it also comes WITH RESOURCE LEAKS!! > And plenty of them. > I don't about you, but I don't think that 4 GB of RAM should be > considered a minimum > for a program that is basically a text editor with a compiler. Did you load service pack 1? I have not had a crash since installing SP 1 :-) oh come on dude. it has to do with find and replace and focus. SP1 did NOT fix the issue; nor did Sp1 fix 'vista compatability' > axe...@gmail.com wrote in news:1172152043.601810.165360 > @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I have not had a crash since installing SP 1 :-) > axe...@gmail.com wrote in news:1172152043.601810.165360 > @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I have not had acrashsince installing SP 1 :-) I do! 3 times a day with sp1 and 2 gig ram. MM "Marcus" <Marcus@typolog-hh.de> wrote in news:1176299629.833635.236540 @n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: >> I have not had acrashsince installing SP 1 :-) > > I do! 3 times a day with sp1 and 2 gig ram. Wow bad luck :-( VS.NET 2005 w/ SP1 is EXTREMELY solid for me. I'm actually quite impressed. dude you're so full of crap.. what do you work for Microsoft? > "Marcus" <Mar...@typolog-hh.de> wrote in news:1176299629.833635.236540 > @n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Wow bad luck :-( VS.NET 2005 w/ SP1 is EXTREMELY solid for me. I'm actually > quite impressed. I have not had these problems. The only similar problems I had is it would take ages to complile a very simple project sometimes, but deleting the \OBJ\ directory of a project always fixes the strange problems (it will be recreated anyway) > Although this guy is a little bit harsh, he speaks the truth - MS VS > 2005 truly is a mediocre [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > considered a minimum > for a program that is basically a text editor with a compiler. > I have this problem as well, and I have 2GB of memory. It pretty much > happens whenever I bring up a form in design mode. I don't think the problem lies with physical memory, but with virtual memory. It seems that if you use a page file performance plummets, it seems that the ide tries to use a page file over any extra ram. My dev machine at work is almost top of the line (or it was when I got it :-) ) and as soon as I turned off my page file it seems my IDE refreshes much faster. I still have some stuttering with inherited forms/user controls but not to much. Let me know if disabling your page file makes any difference - I'm curious. Also, I believe the lag time caused by loading a form in the designer is caused by Visual Studio parsing the MyForm.designer.vb file and laying out all the form's components. If thats true I'm not surprised it takes a bit to load - just imagine what your user's would say if one of your programs created and positioned that many controls at runtime! Thanks, Seth Rowe > > B...@msn.com wrote innews:fqk4t29a5rac34bn85gkhu0jpmho95fvae@4ax.com: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Robin S. disabling my page file? are you KIDDING ME? I just can't wait until gigabyte comes out with the new Iram cards like seriously--- if WIndows can't friggin figure out how to use memory then I'll give it a solid state hard drive for my damn page file ROFL I just swear that MS is on crack; they never should have cut Windows NT down to a single architecture. I mean, if NT still ran MIPS and PPC and Alpha; maybe we wouldn't be stuck with such a crappy a.s solution. Maybe if MS didn't kill off the Alpha; then maybe we could have had a real 64bit and 10gb ram solution 5 years ago and then we could all permanently lived without a page file. but I mean seriously. If Windows has 2gb ram; and Visual Studio 'pages too much' is this _MY_ configuration problem? If Windows has 2gb ram; and Visual Studio 'pages too much' is this _MY_ configuration problem? If Windows has 2gb ram; and Visual Studio 'pages too much' is this _MY_ configuration problem? I'm tired of all the security headaches; and I really really hope that Adobe makes a Linux native version of Dreamweaver for this next release I'm just sick and tired of all the bull crap. I just wish that some computer science prof in the 90s clued me in to how headless and mindless M$ runs their operations. I mean; if Mono can now run VB better than M$; am I really going to stick around long? VB was the only reason for me to stick around with WIndows.. like literally the ONLY reason for me to stick with Windows. and now that MS slaughtered VB as if it were butchering an unarmed child-- I just don't see MS being important 5 years from now. I mean; they killed the Xbox 1 without warning. they're working furiously on YET ANOTHER VISUAL FRED. Maybe they should have forced VISUAL FRED 3.0 down our throats back in 2002. Maybe they should stop selling us crappy a.s software. But the bottom line is that they don't respect the VB market; MS is run by a bunch of C++ and Excel fags-- they don't understand that 2/3rds of the world runs on VB and DATABASES. We don't need OOP. We don't need XML. We don't need to be 'educated' 80% of the vb6 developers 'never wrote a class' Why does MS feel the need to FORCE FEED US ON OOP? they killed VB6 for no reason; and 3/4 of the places I used VB6 _STILL_ can't use VB.net but it's not like I can import VBS or VBA into VB 2005. they shoved VB 2005 down our throats and they won't support 2002 and 2003 on Vista... they just don't get that 'we used to have one language for everything' and now we need to use 4. and when I'm busy with SQL Server and a bunch of other crap; I don't need to be subjected to CONSTANT UNNECESSARY CHANGE. I mean seriously here. WTF IS UP WITH THIS COMPANY? STOP MANDATING CRYSTAL METH USAGE, MICROSOFT STOP MANDATING CRYSTAL METH USAGE, MICROSOFT STOP MANDATING CRYSTAL METH USAGE, MICROSOFT you are the most delusional company in the WORLD http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/02/21/visual_basic_mono_linux/ Visual Basic is one of the World's - and certainly one of Microsoft's - most widely used programming languages. Sixty two per cent of developers use Visual Basic, while 37 per cent of big businesses specifically use Visual Basic.NET - launched for Microsoft's .NET architecture. Visual Basic has a solid following that, over the years, has forced Microsoft to re-think aspects of the .NET roadmap > > I have this problem as well, and I have 2GB of memory. It pretty much > > happens whenever I bring up a form in design mode. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I just think that the IDE runs like crap is because the language is twice as verbose. twice as much VB code = 4 times as slow during development; even if the IDE was lightning fast; it would still be too slow because your code is 4 times more complex. > > I have this problem as well, and I have 2GB of memory. It pretty much > > happens whenever I bring up a form in design mode. [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Feb 13, 9:11 pm, B...@msn.com wrote: > Every now and then when I go on my form in the IDE the form goes blank > and the computer grinds away for 10 or 20 seconds and then everything > reaapears. What exactly is the computer doing and is there a way to > prevent this from happening Please, disregard -- and at *no* means answer to -- posts from the following sources: aaron kempf dba hooker larry linson, jr master programmer pfc_sadr@hotmail.com punjab tom susie dba They're all from the same poster, a paranoid troll that uses this discussion list as if it was its/his/her vomit bag. Regards, and sorry for the OT. Branco. Branco sorry kid; maybe if you stayed ON TOPIC we could get something done. I never experienced this kinda _CRAP_ in vb6. WHY WOULD MS FORCE A SOLUTION DOWN OUR THROATS THAT CRASHES AND HANGS? _BECAUSE_MS_DOES_NOT_GIVE_A_f.ck_ f.ck that mother f.cking company move to PHP, or move back to VB6 On Feb 14, 5:40 am, "Branco Medeiros" <branco.medei...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 13, 9:11 pm, B...@msn.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Branco. > aaron kempf > dba hooker [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > punjab tom > susie dba You might be taken seriously if you didn't continually beclown yourself. Your posts need more cowbell. No, really. More cowbell would help. for starters; I am not, nor have I ever posted as 'master programmer' I perhaps sign on as some of those other people.. am I trying to being DECIETFUL? No. Google groups blocks my posts after about a dozen so of course I need different user names. Master Programmer is a god and he should be Sr Management at MSFT. I've got too much backbone to ever go back to Microsoft. -Aaron > > aaron kempf > > dba hooker [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Your posts need more cowbell. No, really. More cowbell would help. beclown is not a word you f.cking renob > > aaron kempf > > dba hooker [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Your posts need more cowbell. No, really. More cowbell would help. On Feb 14, 5:40 am, "Branco Medeiros" <branco.medei...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 13, 9:11 pm, B...@msn.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Branco. Hey sockpuppet, can we get a little more cowbell please? Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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