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.net 1.1 sp1 install may have broken vsnet debugging

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Paul - 29 Sep 2004 20:00 GMT
I installed .net framework sp 1 update from the microsoft update site.
There seems to be no way to roll back to the previous version. After
installing this my vs.net debugging is broken for web apps. I can't use
the .net repair tool included with the vs.net cd since it can't repair
sp 1. None of the suggested debugging fixes are working.

Any suggestions?
Brian Fulford - 01 Oct 2004 14:26 GMT
what have you tried, I just upgraded yesterday and now I cannot debug
either.

I get the tooltip = "the breakpoint will not currently be hit. No symbols
have been loaded for this document."

Brian

> I installed .net framework sp 1 update from the microsoft update site.
> There seems to be no way to roll back to the previous version. After
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>
> Any suggestions?
Paul - 02 Oct 2004 20:49 GMT
The help page is
ms-help://MS.VSCC.2003/MS.MSDNQTR.2003FEB.1033/vsdebug/html/vxtbsHTTPServerErrors.htm

Nothing on that page is either relevant or effective. Debugging was
working, my project was set up perfectly. Then after sp1 I couldn't
debug. It's still not fixed, I have no idea what's wrong, or how to fix.
I've tried looking at the user accounts for the web site and application
pooling, but am flying blind. The vs.net debugger has been a problem
from day one -- it's very twitchy and it's broken before, but not this
badly. The main problem with this product is that you have to run in
administrator mode to use the debugger -- that plus no support from MS.

> what have you tried, I just upgraded yesterday and now I cannot debug
> either.
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>>Any suggestions?
Blair Neumann [MSFT] - 12 Oct 2004 00:10 GMT
Hello Paul.

Which operating system are you running .NET Framework 1.1 on?  If this is
Windows Server 2003 then this response will not apply to you.  If you are
running on any 32-bit platform other than Windows Server 2003 however, then
try the following suggestions.

First, you can repair .NET Framework 1.1 (including SP1) from the command
line using the following command.  Do this from somewhere with dotnetfx.exe
(the .NET Framework 1.1 installer, not the SP1 installer) in your path.
c:\> dotnetfx.exe /t:%tmp% /c:"msiexec.exe /fvecms %tmp%\netfx.msi"

You also asked how to rollback to the previous version.  You cannot
explicitly uninstall .NET Framework 1.1 SP1, however you can uninstall and
re-install .NET Framework 1.1 which will effectively remove .NET Framework
1.1 SP1.  This will also remove any .NET Framework 1.1 hotfixes which you
have installed, so you will need to re-install these after re-installing
.NET Framework 1.1 (see below).

You can find the .NET Framework 1.1 installer (dotnetfx.exe) here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-
8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en

You can determine which .NET Framework 1.1 hotfixes you have installed (if
any) by checking Add/Remove Programs prior to uninstalling .NET Framework
1.1.  Any Framework 1.1 hotfixes should look like this: "Microsoft .NET
Framework 1.1 Hotfix (KBxxxxxx)".

I hope these suggestions help!

Best wishes.
-Blair.

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> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 13:00:25 -0600
> Subject: .net 1.1 sp1 install may have broken vsnet debugging
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>
> Any suggestions?

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Paul - 13 Oct 2004 06:48 GMT
I still have not been able to fix this and it may not be related to the
.net sp 1 software. No projects can be debugged using the debug run, but
I can debug by attaching to a process. This is a pain and I want my
debugger back. I reinstalled asp.net 1.1, and did a visual studio repair
install. No help.

I have checked all the default web site permissions and users, and the
account for application pooling. Nothing I try seems to work, including
the original settings that were working.

The debugger was working fine until sometime after the sp1 install and a
few MS security updates. My next tests will be to start removing the
security updates one by one.

I don't have an account on the local machine, but am an admin on active
directory. My account is in the local debugger users group, none of this
was changed. One day the debugger was working, the next it wasn't. There
is no information provided by the error message, and all the usual fixes
have been tried. I am going to ask the owner of the system to consume a
MS support incident pretty soon, otherwise it's reformat the hard drive
time.

> Hello Paul.
>
> Which operating system are you running .NET Framework 1.1 on?

w2k3

  If this is
> Windows Server 2003 then this response will not apply to you.  If you are
> running on any 32-bit platform other than Windows Server 2003 however, then
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> have installed, so you will need to re-install these after re-installing
> NET Framework 1.1 (see below).

This is what I did. I uninstalled asp.net from the control panel add
remove windows components. Then reinstalled asp.net. This did not fix
the debugger.

> You can find the .NET Framework 1.1 installer (dotnetfx.exe) here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-
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>>Any suggestions?
Blair Neumann [MSFT] - 13 Oct 2004 18:55 GMT
Hi Paul.

Sorry to hear about your continued troubles debugging applications under
Visual Studio .NET.  Unfortunately, I do not think that I am in any
position to help you troubleshoot your debugger, but you did also preface
this thread with concerns that the problem may have been introduced by .NET
Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 and that you were unable to rollback to the
non-SP1 version.  This is the area where I may be able to help.  My
previous post assumed that you were not running on Windows Server 2003.  
Now that I know that you are, in fact, running on Windows Server 2003, I
may be able to offer a bit more appropriate suggestions.

First off, you can uninstall .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 from Add/Remove
Programs on Windows Server 2003.  If I were a support engineer and you told
me that your problems started after installing SP1, that would be the first
thing I would try.  Unfortunately, the name for SP1 in Add/Remove Programs
is not intuitive, but it should be present.  .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 is
listed as "Windows Server 2003 Hotfix - KB 867460" in Add/Remove Programs
on Windows Server 2003.

If uninstalling SP1 does not fix your problem then I would strongly
recommend re-installing it.  A number of important fixes are contained in
SP1 and we definitely recommend you having it.

You can download .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 for Windows Server 2003
from the following download site.  It should also be offered to your system
on Windows Update if you have uninstalled and not yet re-installed it.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=ae7edef7-2cb7-4864-
8623-a1038563df23&DisplayLang=en

Also, here is the list of bugs that are fixed in .NET Framework 1.1 SP1:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=867460

Again, hope this helps!  I always hate it when machines get flattened to
fix applications; with any luck, we'll find a way to get you back in shape!

Take care.
-Blair.

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> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:48:02 -0600
> Subject: Re: .net 1.1 sp1 install may have broken vsnet debugging
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> > You can find the .NET Framework 1.1 installer (dotnetfx.exe) here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=262d25e3-f589-4842-
> > 8157-034d1e7cf3a3&displaylang=en
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> >>Any suggestions?

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Paul - 14 Oct 2004 08:41 GMT
Unfortunately, the name for SP1 in Add/Remove Programs
> is not intuitive, but it should be present.  .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 is
> listed as "Windows Server 2003 Hotfix - KB 867460" in Add/Remove Programs
> on Windows Server 2003.

@#*$*#&^@! -- The first thing I did was look for sp 1 in the add/remove,
not there -- which I thought was a little unfriendly. I never thought to
examine each hotfix. I uninstalled 1.1 original then reinstalled, not
the same thing. Thanks for answering, no one in the vsnet.debugging
group has.

I'm not the only one having a problem. Paul Wilson has a blog entry on this.

http://weblogs.asp.net/pwilson/archive/2004/09/22/232894.aspx
Paul - 14 Oct 2004 08:53 GMT
> Unfortunately, the name for SP1 in Add/Remove Programs
> is not intuitive, but it should be present.  .NET Framework 1.1 SP1
is > listed as "Windows Server 2003 Hotfix - KB 867460" in Add/Remove
> Programs on Windows Server 2003.

@#*$*#&^@! -- The first thing I did was look for sp 1 in the add/remove,
not there -- which I thought was a little unfriendly. I never thought to
examine each hotfix. I uninstalled 1.1 original then reinstalled, not
the same thing. Thanks for answering, no one in the vsnet.debugging
group has.

I'm not the only one having a problem. Paul Wilson has a blog entry on this.

http://weblogs.asp.net/pwilson/archive/2004/09/22/232894.aspx

He also has another earlier entry that probably explains WHY MY WEB APP
BROKE!
Paul - 14 Oct 2004 09:55 GMT
> First, you can repair .NET Framework 1.1 (including SP1) from the command
> line using the following command.  Do this from somewhere with dotnetfx.exe
> (the .NET Framework 1.1 installer, not the SP1 installer) in your path.
> c:\> dotnetfx.exe /t:%tmp% /c:"msiexec.exe /fvecms %tmp%\netfx.msi"

This is not my result! Using dotnetfx.exe in the 1.1 install, I get an
error popup that says this version of the .net framework is part of the
operating system and cannot be installed or uninstalled ... use windows
update... etc.
Ron P. Cuirle - 12 Oct 2004 16:27 GMT
I recently had a similar thing happen to me.  See if any of this applies....

I had built a class library with .NET 1.1.  I installed that class library
into the GAC.  Life is great.  I upgraded to .NET 1.1 SP1.  I found a need
to make modifications to the class library that was already installed in the
GAC.  However, after making modifications, I couldn't get the debug symbols
to load for the project.

Turns out that it was because my AssemblyInfo file was specifying a version
#.  Fusion was picking up the GAC version, not the project version - and
there were no debug files to load with the GAC version.  I changed my
AssemblyInfo to a different version than what was already installed in the
GAC and I was back in business.

Sound like it might apply to you?  If not, try taking advantage of the Debug
window called "modules" (Debug -> Windows -> Modules).  With it, you can
view what assemblies are currently loaded and explicity load (or reload)
debug symbols for assemblies that don't already have them loaded.

Ron.

> I installed .net framework sp 1 update from the microsoft update site.
> There seems to be no way to roll back to the previous version. After
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>
> Any suggestions?
Paul - 13 Oct 2004 06:51 GMT
I don't think this applies. In my case even a new default web project
with a blank form can't be run directly with the debugger. Thanks.

> I recently had a similar thing happen to me.  See if any of this applies....
>
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>>Any suggestions?
James - 25 Oct 2004 15:55 GMT
Is this the same problem as the topic ".NET 1.1 service pack 1 debug
symbols", i.e. you need to download the latest symbols?

> I don't think this applies. In my case even a new default web project
> with a blank form can't be run directly with the debugger. Thanks.
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> >>
> >>Any suggestions?
spamsux - 18 Jan 2005 06:37 GMT
Something that worked for me.
1. iisreset
2. Consider clearing out the temporary files found in
C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\Temporary ASP.NET Files
3. Delete C:\Documents and Settings\<your login>\VSWebCache\<your
project>
4. Open VS .NET again

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