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.NET Forum / .NET Framework / New Users / October 2004Visual C# program without .NET - possible?
I've developed a small program using Visual C# .NET 2005 Beta, which required .NET 2.0 Beta. I may redo it in Visual Studio .NET 2003. My clients don't have .NET installed, and I'd like to avoid installing .NET on their machines for now. Is there a way to (1) determine IF I'm using any .NET components in my code, (2) redesign without those components, and (3) create an executable that doesn't rely on .NET? If not, is there a tool that allows C# programs without reliance on .NET? Thanks for any help you can provide. > I've developed a small program using Visual C# .NET 2005 Beta, which required > .NET 2.0 Beta. I may redo it in Visual Studio .NET 2003. My clients don't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that doesn't rely on .NET? If not, is there a tool that allows C# programs > without reliance on .NET? See http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/csharp/faq/#framework.required  SignatureJon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet If replying to the group, please do not mail me too 1) You are. The code itself is compiled to MSIL, not machine code, then placed in a PE .exe (for an application). This PE exe actually uses mscorlib.dll to run the MSIL - and mscorlib is a .net cornerstone. So you are very much using .net, even if you have just a "hello world" application in c# 2) Rewrite in any unmanaged language / tool (like VB6, C++/MFC, Delphi, etc) 3) No. However, you can check out the Salamander Linker http://www.remotesoft.com/linker/ which will create a standalone app that links in the needed parts of .net - and so doesn't require you to install .net on the client. However, I've heard mixed reviews about it - and I personally don't recommend the concept as it pushes the burden of .net patch distribution onto the application vendor. > I've developed a small program using Visual C# .NET 2005 Beta, which > required [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks for any help you can provide. Thanks very much for your response, as well as those from John and Daniel. I'm new to the .NET environment and don't yet understand its underpinnings. I suspected that your answer to part (2) was what I'd need to do, but I didn't anticipate the Salamander linker reference. I'll be sure to check it out. I appreciate your help, and thank you again for your time and consideration! > 1) You are. The code itself is compiled to MSIL, not machine code, then > placed in a PE .exe (for an application). This PE exe actually uses [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Thanks for any help you can provide. Did my first reply post? (Got an error).. If not, basically I just wanted to thank you for the details of your reponse, as well as those by Jon and Daniel. I sincerely appreciate your time and consideration! I will check out the Salamander linker reference... > 1) You are. The code itself is compiled to MSIL, not machine code, then > placed in a PE .exe (for an application). This PE exe actually uses [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Thanks for any help you can provide. this salamender stuff look interesting hey! > 1) You are. The code itself is compiled to MSIL, not machine code, then > placed in a PE .exe (for an application). This PE exe actually uses [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >> Thanks for any help you can provide. Very simple, convert your application to a web application and then your clients don't need the .NET Framework installed on their machines... Regards, Daniel Carbajal MVP > I've developed a small program using Visual C# .NET 2005 Beta, which required > .NET 2.0 Beta. I may redo it in Visual Studio .NET 2003. My clients don't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks for any help you can provide. web application sucks! ok, maybe overstated, and I will genereate plenty of flame. but you're simple (and provocatively written) statement, required me to answer like that... > Very simple, convert your application to a web application and then your > clients don't need the .NET Framework installed on their machines... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> Thanks for any help you can provide. >web application sucks! Couldn't agree more - I still haven't seen a REALLY GOOD web app - WinForms UI apps are just all that much more flexible, powerful, useful. Marc ================================================================ Marc Scheuner May The Source Be With You! Bern, Switzerland m.scheuner(at)inova.ch Daniel, I appreciate the comment, but the reason I developed this C# program is to bring up the WebBrowser control in a window that I would have more control over. Specifically, I needed the capability to keep the browser on top of other windows regardless of the currently active window, to make it modeless, and to reuse the existing instance rather than launching multiple windows every time a new URL was requested from the program that launches mine. As such, a web application doesn't address my need. I wasn't clear enough in my original post, so your suggestion in the absence of my clarifications was reasonable. I've also checked out the suggestion made by Philip Reick to look at the Salamander Linker. As I read it, an installation is still required, and that's what I wanted to avoid. If it had bundled all necessary resources into one executable, it would function just like a non-managed (pre-.NET) program, and that would have solved my problem about doing a separate install. As it is, if I have to do any kind of install, I might as well install .NET 1.1 on all the target machines. His point about not taking on the responsibility for updating is very important and quite relevant. Many thanks to all who've provided input. I appreciate it. > Very simple, convert your application to a web application and then your > clients don't need the .NET Framework installed on their machines... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Thanks for any help you can provide. Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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