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.NET Forum / .NET Framework / New Users / March 2007How many frameworks do I need?
Windows update says I need .NET Framework 1.1 service pack 1, but it fails to install and will not say why. Looking in Add/Remove Programs, I have: Microsoft .NET Compact Framework 1.0 SP3 Developer Microsoft .NET Compact Framework 2.0 Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 What are these for? The last three seem cumulative. Do I need them all? Many thanx, Rip > Windows update says I need .NET Framework 1.1 service pack 1, but it fails > to install and will not say why. Looking in Add/Remove Programs, I have: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rip 3.0 is an add-on to 2.0, so you cannot remove 2.0. Whether you need 1.1 depends on whether or not you are currently using an application that needs 1.1. If you do have such an application installed, and you cannot obtain an updated version that can use 2.0, removing 1.1 will break the app. >> Do I need them all? Yes. It's a marketing gizmo / stupid technology decision, forcing you to buy a new version of Visual Studio every time something changes in the Framework. Bob Lehmann > Windows update says I need .NET Framework 1.1 service pack 1, but it fails > to install and will not say why. Looking in Add/Remove Programs, I have: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rip > >> Do I need them all? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Bob Lehmann Yes, because even though Visual Studio 2002/2003 were released years before 2.0 came out, they should obviously have automatically worked out how generics work... (and for 3.0, they're providing plugins for VS2005, even though that's the VS for 2.0...) Damien >> >> Do I need them all? >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Damien 3.0 is just 2.0 + extra stuff, so nothing changed. If they could have gotten Orcas done in time to release early this year (or last year, when it was originally planned), you'd be buying a new version of VS to do WPF, WCF, and WF. The new version of VS will be out before the end of the year, and will include 3.0 plus some more stuff (like Linq) I bet you can't do in VS2005. Robin S. > >> >> Do I need them all? > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Robin S. So on the one hand, you claim it's just a marketing gizmo, but on the other hand, you admit that there is new functionality in each version of the framework (I think, for the sake of sanity, we should gloss over 2.0/3.0, since I think we'd both agree that those two are the same) which you'd need a new version of Visual Studio to access? Orcas is now solidly targetted at 3.5, which is the release which will have Linq, VB 9 and C# 3. Damien > So on the one hand, you claim it's just a marketing gizmo, but on the > other hand, you admit that there is new functionality in each version [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Damien I agree with you that Bob's comments are unfair, but I think Robin's point actually agrees with your position: there will be a new version of VS soon, but it'll include a whole host of new functionality not supported in earlier versions of .NET. Having said that... I did see one of my colleagues playing with some Linq the other day and it was somehow working fine in VS 2005 so maybe a new VS won't be necessary. The only mud that might stick here is .NET 1.0 vs .NET 1.1 where you needed VS 2003 for the latter, yet the differences between them weren't really that significant. Regards, Bart >> So on the one hand, you claim it's just a marketing gizmo, but on the >> other hand, you admit that there is new functionality in each version [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Regards, > Bart You're right, that was my point. I'm not bashing Microsoft, I'm going with the (work)flow. Haha. (Sorry, it's late). It would be great if they released an update to VS2005 that we could use all the new functionality with, but I'd be really surprised. I think they've thrown VS2003 out the window. Not supported on Vista, can't use .Net 3.0 with it (which makes sense, since you can't use .Net 2.0). Robin S. On Mar 14, 5:23 pm, Bart Read <Bart R...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > So on the one hand, you claim it's just a marketing gizmo, but on the > > other hand, you admit that there is new functionality in each version [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Regards, > Bart I wouldn't be surprised if you could use the Linq functionality inside VS2005, since even for .Net 3.5, they're not changing the CLR. But the major change for 3.5 is what the compilers support, so I wouldn't expect you to be able to use the Linq syntax (you'd have to make direct calls into the Linq functions), nor to be able to use the new type inference system ("var x ="). Still, I'm only dreaming at the moment. Still stuck on 1.1/VS2003 here :-( Damien You also won't be able to use LINQ designers, refactor upgrades, etc. You can download the March CTP to see most of what will be in the final release.  SignatureGregory A. Beamer MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA ********************************************* Think outside the box! ********************************************* > On Mar 14, 5:23 pm, Bart Read <Bart R...@discussions.microsoft.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Damien 1.0 is Visual Studio .NET 2002 (or apps you have installed that use this) 1.1 is Visual Studio .NET 2003 (same caveat) 2.0 is Visual Studio .NET 2005 (last full framework) 3.0 are incremental additions to Framework 2.0 (not a full framework) Compact Framework is for development on Mobile devices and necessary only if you are developing for mobile. 2.0 and 3.0 I would definitely keep. If you have no installed 1.0 or 1.1 apps, you can get rid of those. SignatureGregory A. Beamer MVP; MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA ********************************************* Think outside the box! ********************************************* > Windows update says I need .NET Framework 1.1 service pack 1, but it fails > to install and will not say why. Looking in Add/Remove Programs, I have: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rip Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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