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What's the new thing after ActiveX?
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ThunderMusic - 16 Jan 2007 00:39 GMT Hi, I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade to 3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw some things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using ActiveX, but now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably driven to more and more security.
What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing" working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and Opera? Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could avoid it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on the client machine?
Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on everything, but the most would be the better... The bare minumum would be Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance)
Thanks
ThunderMusic
Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP] - 16 Jan 2007 00:55 GMT WPF/E
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/bb187358.aspx
> Hi, > I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > ThunderMusic ThunderMusic - 16 Jan 2007 01:24 GMT great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it does which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers on the site even with a quick look at the FAQ)
thanks a lot
ThunderMusic
> WPF/E > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> ThunderMusic ThunderMusic - 16 Jan 2007 01:29 GMT ok, I found it... it's shipped with .NET 3.0... I hope my host will upgrade soon... ;)
thanks a lot
ThunderMusic
> great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it > does which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >>> >>> ThunderMusic bruce barker - 16 Jan 2007 01:56 GMT wpf/e is a browser plugin and which downloads a xml content file and support javascript. ms has tools coming out that will help create these content files.
you just need your users to install the plugin, and host the xml files and addition content files on you host. no new host software required.
to develop an mpf/e application all you need is notepad.
-- bruce (sqlwork.com)
> ok, I found it... it's shipped with .NET 3.0... I hope my host will upgrade > soon... ;) [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >>>> >>>> ThunderMusic William Stacey [C# MVP] - 16 Jan 2007 03:32 GMT I also just heard wpf/e is working on being able to use c# as well as script (on the client) and it will work with different platforms. Now if that is not some neat news, not sure what is.
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| wpf/e is a browser plugin and which downloads a xml content file and | support javascript. ms has tools coming out that will help create these [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] | >>>> | >>>> ThunderMusic Laurent Bugnion [MVP] - 16 Jan 2007 07:29 GMT Hi,
> I also just heard wpf/e is working on being able to use c# as well as script > (on the client) and it will work with different platforms. Now if that is > not some neat news, not sure what is. That's correct. The current WPF/E version is a (first) CTP, which supports only JavaScript "code-behind". However it's quite neat already, because the XAML DOM is fully accessible to the script, so you can actually change it on the client.
Currently, WPF/E plug-in is available for IE, Firefox, Safari (yes, that's Mac). Normally, a Linux version should be in preparation.
In the V1 (which is announced for MIX07, end of April), you will also be able to write C# code-behind. A subset of the framework only will be supported, but it's not clear yet which functionalities will be removed.
HTH, Laurent
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ThunderMusic - 17 Jan 2007 15:48 GMT ok, so if I want to do a new drawing program, it will be possible with that? right?
I've read on the site the 3D support can be expected soon... Will it use XNA, OpenGL or some other type of API?
thanks
ThunderMusic
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > HTH, > Laurent Laurent Bugnion [MVP] - 18 Jan 2007 10:28 GMT Hi,
> ok, so if I want to do a new drawing program, it will be possible with that? > right? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > thanks WPF (not E) currently uses DirectX 10 for 3D. It is optimized for Vista, and relies on hardware acceleration (on cards supporting it) for smoother animations.
What WPF/E will (would) use for 3D is not clear yet. Note that using JavaScript matrix transformations, some 3D effects can be done already in WPF/E, and are surprisingly smooth. For more info, see this video: http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=263358 (JavaScript 3D animations after 19:30)
For more info about 3D in general (and probably about 3D in WPF/E too), try talking to Daniel Lehenbauer. http://blogs.msdn.com/danlehen/default.aspx
Greetings, Laurent
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Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider] - 22 Jan 2007 19:50 GMT You could use an embedded windows forms control. Here are the details: http://SteveOrr.net/articles/WinformControls.aspx
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> Hi, > I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > ThunderMusic ThunderMusic - 23 Jan 2007 14:55 GMT is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too?
thanks
ThunderMusic
> You could use an embedded windows forms control. > Here are the details: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> ThunderMusic Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider] - 26 Jan 2007 19:26 GMT It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework installed.
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> is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too? > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>> >>> ThunderMusic Ralph - 03 Feb 2007 18:12 GMT Wasn't ActiveX also limited to windows too though?
> It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework > installed. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>>> >>>> ThunderMusic Alvin Bruney [MVP] - 04 Feb 2007 15:04 GMT There are plug-ins for other browsers. You don't need to post this to every newsgroup you can find btw.
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> Wasn't ActiveX also limited to windows too though? >> It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >>>>> >>>>> ThunderMusic
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