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What's the new thing after ActiveX?

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ThunderMusic - 16 Jan 2007 00:39 GMT
Hi,
I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade to
3.0 if really needed). Actually, I need the user to be able to draw some
things in a rectangle. Some years ago I would have do it using ActiveX, but
now I know MS has a new philosophy about this, probably driven to more and
more security.

What I want to know is : What's the new thing now? Is "the new thing"
working on Windows, Mac and Linux? What about IE, Netscape, Firefox and
Opera?  Should I resolve to use Java (I'd really appreciate if I could avoid
it)? Would the installation of the .NET Framework be required on the client
machine?

Actually, I don't need the control (or whatever it's called) to work on
everything, but the most would be the better...  The bare minumum would be
Windows and Mac, IE and Netscape (and Firefox for instance)

Thanks

ThunderMusic
Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP] - 16 Jan 2007 00:55 GMT
WPF/E

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/asp.net/bb187358.aspx

> Hi,
> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade
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> ThunderMusic
ThunderMusic - 16 Jan 2007 01:24 GMT
great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it does
which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers on the
site even with a quick look at the FAQ)

thanks a lot

ThunderMusic

> WPF/E
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>> ThunderMusic
ThunderMusic - 16 Jan 2007 01:29 GMT
ok, I found it...  it's shipped with .NET 3.0... I hope my host will upgrade
soon... ;)

thanks a lot

ThunderMusic

> great it's exactly what I need... does it require .NET framework? if it
> does which one does it require? is 2.0 enough? (I can't find those answers
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bruce barker - 16 Jan 2007 01:56 GMT
wpf/e is a browser plugin and which downloads a xml content file and
support javascript. ms has tools coming out that will help create these
content files.

you just need your users to install the plugin, and host the xml files
and addition content files on you host. no new host software required.

to develop an mpf/e application all you need is notepad.

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)

> ok, I found it...  it's shipped with .NET 3.0... I hope my host will upgrade
> soon... ;)
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William Stacey [C# MVP] - 16 Jan 2007 03:32 GMT
I also just heard wpf/e is working on being able to use c# as well as script
(on the client) and it will work with different platforms.  Now if that is
not some neat news, not sure what is.

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Laurent Bugnion [MVP] - 16 Jan 2007 07:29 GMT
Hi,

> I also just heard wpf/e is working on being able to use c# as well as script
> (on the client) and it will work with different platforms.  Now if that is
> not some neat news, not sure what is.

That's correct. The current WPF/E version is a (first) CTP, which
supports only JavaScript "code-behind". However it's quite neat already,
because the XAML DOM is fully accessible to the script, so you can
actually change it on the client.

Currently, WPF/E plug-in is available for IE, Firefox, Safari (yes,
that's Mac). Normally, a Linux version should be in preparation.

In the V1 (which is announced for MIX07, end of April), you will also be
able to write C# code-behind. A subset of the framework only will be
supported, but it's not clear yet which functionalities will be removed.

HTH,
Laurent
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ThunderMusic - 17 Jan 2007 15:48 GMT
ok, so if I want to do a new drawing program, it will be possible with that?
right?

I've read on the site the 3D support can be expected soon... Will it use
XNA, OpenGL or some other type of API?

thanks

ThunderMusic

> Hi,
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> Laurent
Laurent Bugnion [MVP] - 18 Jan 2007 10:28 GMT
Hi,

> ok, so if I want to do a new drawing program, it will be possible with that?
> right?
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> thanks

WPF (not E) currently uses DirectX 10 for 3D. It is optimized for Vista,
and relies on hardware acceleration (on cards supporting it) for
smoother animations.

What WPF/E will (would) use for 3D is not clear yet. Note that using
JavaScript matrix transformations, some 3D effects can be done already
in WPF/E, and are surprisingly smooth. For more info, see this video:
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=263358
(JavaScript 3D animations after 19:30)

For more info about 3D in general (and probably about 3D in WPF/E too),
try talking to Daniel Lehenbauer.
http://blogs.msdn.com/danlehen/default.aspx

Greetings,
Laurent
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Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider] - 22 Jan 2007 19:50 GMT
You could use an embedded windows forms control.
Here are the details:
http://SteveOrr.net/articles/WinformControls.aspx

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> Hi,
> I need to do some graphics work from my ASP.NET 2.0 Website (can upgrade
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> ThunderMusic
ThunderMusic - 23 Jan 2007 14:55 GMT
is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too?

thanks

ThunderMusic

> You could use an embedded windows forms control.
> Here are the details:
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Steve C. Orr [MCSD, MVP, CSM, ASP Insider] - 26 Jan 2007 19:26 GMT
It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework
installed.

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I hope this helps,
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> is it limited to Windows or will it work on Mac too?
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Ralph - 03 Feb 2007 18:12 GMT
Wasn't ActiveX also limited to windows too though?
> It's limited to windows and the windows user must have the .NET framework
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Alvin Bruney [MVP] - 04 Feb 2007 15:04 GMT
There are plug-ins for other browsers.
You don't need to post this to every newsgroup you can find btw.

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