thanks for this and all the other replies
ive use cvs before and it can consume quite a bit of time and patience
especialy when something doesnt go quite right or breaks.

ive used about 3 diferent cvs tools to access other software already,
such as online open source code, and its taken some patience
to get them to work.

but recently I had 12 bsod when trying to get multiple viewports to work
with managed directx and a fancy docking library that would change the
window to invalid sizes
while it was changing it from docked to undocked states.

i was geting woried my file system was going to become unbootable again.
at least zip files are relativly easy to recover compared to closed format
data stores.

I just like to make a snapshot when I get the thing to work,
and before I make any drastic changes,
unfortunatly my enthusiasm comes in bursts and i forget to make the snapshot
till after ive already made a few changes  lol.

I dont need to keep versions going back over many weeks.
when I release a version I take a complete file dump.

the filehamster seems to be an ideal tool, it just looks for any files that
have changed and
puts them in the library, as long as it does this every few hours or so this
wil be fine,
I think i saw setings for that.

Colin =^.^=

hey that sounds cool, hamster powered software !!!!
I like that, can you see the hamster spinning the little wheel ?

ive come unstuck using full blown vcs before when it locked up and would let
me look at my own files >.<
when the disc became non bootable.

what a nice range of answers ive got, sounds like thisl do the job,
ive yet to goggle for it but im sure its easy to find.

Colin =^.^=