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.NET Forum / Languages / C# / February 2008language (sopken) translation
Hi, I need to translate some text messages wich are in a file wich is in windows .ini format, eg:- [Info] Title=haunted church [Message1] NewMessage=do not enter from czech to english, there are quite a few translation websites wich do online translations, but only 1 ive found wich can take czech, http://www.tranexp.com/ its not that good but is at least a start. but if I pass it the whole .ini file it makes a mess of the headings etc, I could use the c# webservices to access the website and pass it each message at a time rather than doing it by hand, but is there an easy way of doing this ? ive only a limited number of files to do so I dont realy want anything costly. thanks Colin =^.^= Colin, Well, you can call the GetPrivateProfile* functions in the Win32 API to get the values for the various items in the INI file and then pass those to your web service to get translations that don't involve the headers of the INI file and whatnot. You should be able to find the definition of the functions at http://www.pinvoke.net  Signature- Nicholas Paldino [.NET/C# MVP] - mvp@spam.guard.caspershouse.com > Hi, > I need to translate some text messages wich are in a file wich [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Colin =^.^= thanks, but the hard part isnt geting the data from the .ini file, as I create that anyway, but accessing a web translater from within c#. Colin =^.^= > Colin, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> Colin =^.^= Colin, Well, the translators might not offer a web service interface, but you should be able to mimic going through a browser with an HttpWebRequest/HttpWebResponse class. You just need to look at the traffic that is sent on a request (use something like Fiddler to see what is sent) and then replicate that. On return, you can parse the response to get the translated result. Signature- Nicholas Paldino [.NET/C# MVP] - mvp@spam.guard.caspershouse.com > thanks, but the hard part isnt geting the data from the .ini file, > as I create that anyway, but accessing a web translater from within c#. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >>> >>> Colin =^.^= yeah thanks, thats what I was thinking I could do as a last resort, I was looking for examples of doing automated translations but so much of it is to do with translating the computer language eg java<->c#. it might not be too dificult but ive not used the httweb* classes yet, but il give fiddler a look ... Colin =^.^= > Colin, > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >>>> >>>> Colin =^.^= thanks, ive managed to get it working exept for the urlencoding, the string "prokletého podzemí" gets converted to proklet%E9ho+podzem%ED looking in fiddler, but when I use System.Web.HttpUtility.UrlEncode(string) it converts it to proklet%c3%a9ho+podzem%c3%ad wich isnt right, im not sure what I need to use, ive tried a few alternatives such as encoding optional parameters, but only makes it worse, any ideas ? (apart from doing the conversion myself ofc lol) Colin =^.^= > Colin, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > is sent) and then replicate that. On return, you can parse the response > to get the translated result. ah its ok I found a few examples of using it and seems the System.Text.Encoding doesnt contain the entry I need. System.Web.HttpUtility.UrlEncode(textIn, System.Text.Encoding.GetEncoding("Windows-1252")); using this it works now :) Colin =^.^= > thanks, ive managed to get it working exept for the urlencoding, > the string "prokletého podzemí" gets converted to proklet%E9ho+podzem%ED [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> is sent) and then replicate that. On return, you can parse the response >> to get the translated result. I would warn you that using automated translations is going to give you VERY poorly translated text. Translation involves a lot more than simply translating individual words. Even translations by someone who speaks both languages will generally be pretty bad if the person isn't very fluent in both languages. If the text to be translated is technical (like software related terminology), that adds further difficulty if the person translating isn't familiar with the terminology in both languages in question. Translations, even by some of the better automated translation systems (like Babelfish) do a pretty poor job overall. The can do enough that the reader can generally decipher the meaning, but they rarely translate into something that sounds natural. I speak from experience as both a developer who has worked with professional translators to localize applications and as someone who has actually done translations (translating contracts from Spanish to English, English being my native tongue). Translation is both an art and an acquired skill. I have acquired some of the skill, but I don't have the art and my translations are pretty weak, but they're FAR better than anything an automated system can do. I don't mean to discourage you, but simply to let you know the reality of the situation. > Hi, > I need to translate some text messages wich are in a file wich [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Colin =^.^= yeah, like I said its not that good but its at least a start, I have tried it and I can decipher some of it and make it into better sentances, but even then a significant proportion is still un inteligable, but it would then make less work for someone who knew the language, or tried to work out the meaning from the situation context, fortunatly its not specifically technical. Colin =^.^= >I would warn you that using automated translations is going to give you >VERY poorly translated text. Translation involves a lot more than simply [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >> >> Colin =^.^= Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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