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.NET Forum / Languages / C# / February 2008Information about this group
Greetings all, I have advanced my programming skills to the point where I am comfortable discussing various topics and have at least a few experiences to share...so now I want to get in on the action in some of the groups. C# is my first choice... I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page that contains this information? I know we should all be polite and courteous, not only here, but everywhere, that's a given... My major question at this point is: Who is "allowed" to answer questions for others? Thanks, Newbie Roger > Greetings all, > > I know we should all be polite and courteous, not only here, but > everywhere, that's a given... Yep. > My major question at this point is: Who is "allowed" to answer questions > for others? Everyone and anyone > Thanks, > > Newbie Roger Happy posting - Michael Starberg > [...] > I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page > that contains this information? I'm not aware of any specific to this newsgroup. However, the general Usenet netiquette rules do apply, even as we sometimes forget them. :) > I know we should all be polite and courteous, not only here, but > everywhere, that's a given... > > My major question at this point is: Who is "allowed" to answer > questions for others? Anyone. Even me. :) Pete > I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page that > contains this information? Nah, just dont use caps (normal netiquette) the rest will come clear as some of the other members point out all (my) misstakes ;) The hard part is all the IMHO/IMO/OT/OP/LOL/ROFL/IRL and so on mumbo jumbo the greatest might be the AYBABTU! (All Your Base Are Belong To Us) so C# is the easy part ;P //CY <snip> > I would just like to know the rules (and etiquette) ...is there a page that > contains this information? I wrote a page a while ago, but it's *just* my personal opinion - it's certainly not "group policy" or anything like that: http://pobox.com/~skeet/csharp/faq/posting.html Jon > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jon Nice points, one point though, you are not adressing is that some of us are not using our normal /spoken/ language, and there might be a bit of trouble with understanding that... thinking in japanese, finnish, american will generate some funny sentences... I do I know, as I write like crap and then the keyboard of this laptop is a bit ... hmm... lets say scrappy(if there is such a word)... the time difference is another thought, when I put something out its midnight somewhere else... And I would say, dont use the group for solving homework ;) Oh, it was more than one... sorry ;) //CY > Nice points, one point though, you are not adressing is that some of > us are not using our normal /spoken/ language, and there might be a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Oh, it was more than one... sorry ;) I'll have a think about how I can bring those points in. Not that it's a very widely seen page, I have to say.  SignatureJon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet World class .NET training in the UK: http://iterativetraining.co.uk > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jon Thanks Jon, that's exactly the information I was looking for. I move we make it official "group policy." Okay, maybe I don't have that kind of authority yet... What does C# MVP mean? I can decipher the acronym, but what does it _really_ mean? I am currently using Windows Live Mail as my news reader, and you MVPs should be delighted to learn that, at least in this reader, you get your own Icon. How cool is that!?!? I haven't used Outlook Express for a few years, but I believe Windows Live Mail is very similar in many ways pertaining to formatting outgoing messages. Maybe with time I can figure out how to get those annoying line breaks and paragraph formats out of my messages. Why do we need line limits in plain text anyhow? Most readers will wrap text. I understand we don't want to scroll the entire message on the horizontal when viewing from a news reader website, but proper CSS can handle that. I move we standardize the Net as well... Okay, way off topic now. Thanks to everyone for the warm welcome. SignatureRoger Frost "Logic Is Syntax Independent" > [...] > I haven't used Outlook Express for a few years, but I believe Windows > Live Mail is very similar in many ways pertaining to formatting outgoing > messages. Maybe with time I can figure out how to get those annoying > line breaks and paragraph formats out of my messages. Done. :) As it happens, many message clients, including Live Mail (and if I recall OE, but I'm not sure), support "flowed" text. From the header for your message: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Note the "format=flowed" part. That means that even though your message client is in fact putting line-breaks, other message clients displaying your message are instructed to take them back out before displaying, reflowing the text to fit the reader's view of the text. So, for example, my newsreader does not show me the line breaks your message client put in your message. I show your lines as taking the entire width of my window. > Why do we need line limits in plain text anyhow? Most readers will wrap > text. I understand we don't want to scroll the entire message on the > horizontal when viewing from a news reader website, but proper CSS can > handle that. > > I move we standardize the Net as well... Done. :) > Okay, way off topic now. Yup. Pete > Thanks Jon, that's exactly the information I was looking for. Cool. > I move we make it official "group policy." Okay, maybe I don't have that > kind of authority yet... We're an anarchy - there *is* no authority. Well, not really. In theory MS could start pulling posts etc, but it rarely comes to that. > What does C# MVP mean? I can decipher the acronym, but what does it > _really_ mean? MVPs are people who have helped a lot of people over the course of time. That's about all there is to it, really. In particular: o MVPs tend to be reasonably knowledgable, but aren't necessarily experts. We're also quite capable of being wrong. Don't be afraid to challenge/correct us. o MVPs aren't paid by Microsoft. We get gifts every so often, but nothing that prevents us from being independent. If a non-MS tool is the best way forward in a particular situation, don't be surprised to see an MVP say so. o MVPs are awarded for *past* contributions, not current ones. For instance, if I had just been re-awarded (in fact my award cycle is in October, but never mind - it's yearly, anyway) I could just sit back and not help anyone, without the award being taken away. It's to do with the *previous* year. o MVPs do tend to have reasonable connections inside MS, particularly within their product groups. I know a few members of the C# team well enough that they'd recognise my name, at least :) We also *sometimes* know confidential information, which we *won't* reveal. Does that help? > I am currently using Windows Live Mail as my news reader, > and you MVPs should be delighted to learn that, at least in this reader, you > get your own Icon. How cool is that!?!? Pretty smart. I must look into Live Mail some time. > I haven't used Outlook Express for a few years, but I believe Windows Live > Mail is very similar in many ways pertaining to formatting outgoing > messages. Maybe with time I can figure out how to get those annoying line > breaks and paragraph formats out of my messages. :) > Why do we need line limits in plain text anyhow? Most readers will wrap > text. I understand we don't want to scroll the entire message on the > horizontal when viewing from a news reader website, but proper CSS can > handle that. Historical reasons, really. Basically NNTP could do with a big refresh. It's really nice to have a dedicated protocol with dedicated clients (I'm not a great fan of web forums) but it's really showing its age. SignatureJon Skeet - <skeet@pobox.com> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet World class .NET training in the UK: http://iterativetraining.co.uk >> What does C# MVP mean? I can decipher the acronym, but what does it >> _really_ mean? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Does that help? Yup, and that's very interesting. Thanks....I suppose we should end this thread now, I have enough to get started :) SignatureRoger Frost "Logic Is Syntax Independent" Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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