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Blackjack II GPS

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Hilton - 25 Feb 2008 20:43 GMT
Hi,

According to emails I have received, Google Maps finds the GPS immediately.
However, scanning the com ports in C# does not.  Even with the Modaco hack,
looking for the GPS doesn't necessarily work.

Any idea how Google Maps get their GPS code to work with an unmodified BJ 2?

Hilton
Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] - 25 Feb 2008 20:59 GMT
It's probably using the GPS intermediate driver, rather than acting like an
application-accessible serial port.  Take a look at the Windows Mobile 6 SDK
help.  I'd expect that there's some means to make the GPS appear as a serial
port only, too, via the GPS Intermediate Driver Control Panel applet.  No?

Paul T.

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Hilton - 26 Feb 2008 00:47 GMT
Paul,

I don't think so.  The GPS is not exposed on any port - see modaco.com to
expose it on COM4.  The GPS Intermediate Driver requires a COM port.

If Google maps can get GPS data, how can we?  Frustrating.

Hilton

> It's probably using the GPS intermediate driver, rather than acting like
> an application-accessible serial port.  Take a look at the Windows Mobile
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Peter Foot - 26 Feb 2008 08:53 GMT
There was a thread on this in the smartphone.developer group recently. You
need to go through the GPS intermediate driver as the Blackjack II gps
hardware talks directly to this with a special driver rather than spitting
out NMEA over a COM port. Since GPS intermediate driver supports
multiplexing you can use it even when Google maps is running. There is
sample code in the Windows Mobile SDK for using the GPS intermediate driver
from .NETCF.

Peter

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Hilton - 27 Feb 2008 07:09 GMT
Peter,

Thanks for the info.

It uses gpsapi.dll - I just got it to work on my WM6 Pocket PC.  Do you know
if the gpsapi.dll file is always/only on WM6 devices?

Thanks,

Hilton

> There was a thread on this in the smartphone.developer group recently. You
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doolaard@gmail.com - 27 Feb 2008 08:25 GMT
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The gpsapi.dll is present starting from WM5

Jan
Hilton - 27 Feb 2008 09:40 GMT
Hi,

I had used File Explorer to browse "\Windows" on my X51 with "Show All
Files" enabled and gpsapi.dll doesn't show.  It does show on my WM6 X50v.
So after reading your post, I wrote a simple "Find File" app which search
for gpsapi.dll and lo and behold it is in "\Windows" on both devices!

Perhaps a WM5 "Show All Files" bug then?  Either way, thanks for the info,
I'm a happy camper now.

So, if I understand this correctly, the user no longer has to set the COM
port and baud rate and it'll just work?  When I try GpsSample, it just
worked.  That would be cool.

Hilton

> The gpsapi.dll is present starting from WM5
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> Jan
Hilton - 27 Feb 2008 10:42 GMT
Quick follow-up:

GpsSample works on Pocket PCs with both WM5 and WM6, but not Blackjack with
WM5 (even though the COM Port/Baud Rat combo works in a separate program)
which means that the BT is setup correctly),  testing continues...

Hilton

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Joel - 28 Feb 2008 02:09 GMT
I could have sworn some one mentioned this same problem with this same phone
about 4 days ago.

http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/blackjack_ii_mustinstall_gps_h.html

[...]there is a problem with the implementation on the Blackjack (and in
fact the Moto Q9H I understand, a device I believe this patch will help with
too). The problem is that although the GPSID is configured and applications
such as the built in Telenav and Windows Live Search can use the system
fine, there is no COM port exposed to allow the vast majority of
applications that use this connection method to use the GPS.

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Hilton - 28 Feb 2008 08:07 GMT
Right, but...  Google Maps works fine with the GPS without this patch.

>I could have sworn some one mentioned this same problem with this same
>phone about 4 days ago.
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Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] - 27 Feb 2008 15:14 GMT
The File Explorer doesn't show all files no matter what you set it to do.
If you use the Remote File Viewer, *that* will show all the files.

Paul T.

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