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Simon Hart - 05 Jan 2006 12:59 GMT
Hi,

How likely is it that the CF 2.0 ARMV4 for WM 2003 and ARMV4i for WM 2005
and SQL Mobile 3.0 ARMV4 cabs will work on most PPC's?

What I am trying to get clear is; the Intel ARM processor is the only target
platform Microsoft targets under VS 2005, so does this mean there are
currently no PPC devices available that contain processors other than Intel
ARM?

Cheers
Simon.
<ctacke/> - 05 Jan 2006 13:32 GMT
Almost correct.  All PPC devices since PPC 2002 are ARM based - though they
don't have to be Intel.  Intel != ARM.  Intel also makes x86.  Several
vendors also make ARM-core processors - many of which are in WM devices.

-Chris

> Hi,
>
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> Cheers
> Simon.
Simon Hart - 05 Jan 2006 14:28 GMT
Thanks Chris. x86 is not being shipped with the Pocket PC SDK and I thought
there were no x86 based PPC's on the market at this time. Is this assumption
correct?

> Almost correct.  All PPC devices since PPC 2002 are ARM based - though
> they don't have to be Intel.  Intel != ARM.  Intel also makes x86.
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>> Cheers
>> Simon.
Peter Foot [MVP] - 05 Jan 2006 15:05 GMT
Thats correct, the only reason X86 shipped with older Pocket PC SDKs was for
the previous generation of emulators - no real Windows Mobile devices have
ever been X86 based.

Peter

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> Thanks Chris. x86 is not being shipped with the Pocket PC SDK and I
> thought there were no x86 based PPC's on the market at this time. Is this
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>>> Cheers
>>> Simon.
Steve Maillet (eMVP) - 10 Jan 2006 03:08 GMT
>Thanks Chris. x86 is not being shipped with the Pocket PC SDK and I thought
>there were no x86 based PPC's on the market at this time. Is this
>assumption correct?

Yes ALL Pocket PCs are based on ARM processors as of 2002 as Chris
mentioned. I believe the reason he mentioned x86 at all is take issue with
your use of the phrase "Intel ARM" and claiming that is the only processor
supported by VS2005. Intel is *NOT* ARM. ARM is a separate company that OWNS
the ARM name and processor core IP. Intel, acquired the StrongARM processor
(an *implementation* of the ARM CPU core) from DEC many years ago and
morphed that into what has become the XScale line of processors. There are
Many other companies, such as Freescale and Samsung that incorporate ARM
cores into their Processors and those are also supported by Windows Mobile.

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Simon Hart - 10 Jan 2006 22:08 GMT
Thanks for the great detail on the ARM processor Steve.

> >Thanks Chris. x86 is not being shipped with the Pocket PC SDK and I
> >thought there were no x86 based PPC's on the market at this time. Is this
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> incorporate ARM cores into their Processors and those are also supported
> by Windows Mobile.

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