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laziers@gmail.com - 16 Dec 2007 21:35 GMT Hi, Could anyone tell me if is good idee to use asp.net in project such as "http://www.linkedin.com/"? I heard that the asp.net "has no good performance" especially using with mssql. So, now Im confused.. really I dont believe of this that the asp.net is slower than jee, ror, php etc.
Jonathan Wood - 16 Dec 2007 21:44 GMT I wouldn't believe it either. At least, I'd take a careful look at who was saying this, and what information they presented to support such a claim. Unfortunately, from your post, I don't have access to any such information.
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> Hi, > Could anyone tell me if is good idee to use asp.net in project such as [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So, now Im confused.. really I dont believe of this that the asp.net > is slower than jee, ror, php etc. Latish Sehgal - 17 Dec 2007 01:48 GMT On Dec 16, 2:35 pm, "lazi...@gmail.com" <lazi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, > Could anyone tell me if is good idee to use asp.net in project such as [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So, now Im confused.. really I dont believe of this that the asp.net > is slower than jee, ror, php etc. Hi laziers Check out http://www.myspace.com/ and http://www.orkut.com/ These are 2 of the biggest social networks out there, both in dot net. If you follow good coding practices, you should be good. I am myself working on a small time social networking project using asp.net and MySQL. -Latish Sehgal http://www.dotnetsurfers.com/
laziers@gmail.com - 17 Dec 2007 09:20 GMT > Hi laziers > Check outhttp://www.myspace.com/andhttp://www.orkut.com/ > These are 2 of the biggest social networks out there, both in dot net. thats right :), meeeen I forgot it
> If you follow good coding practices, you should be good. Im always following ;)
thx for answer.
Michael Nemtsev [MVP] - 17 Dec 2007 07:50 GMT Hello laziers@gmail.com,
Who told u that? :)
Actually it depends on you requirements and the blocking area is only the bandwidth, but not the SQL Server :)
I suppose u are not building real-time system with <10ms delays in ASP.net :)
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"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
l> Hi, l> Could anyone tell me if is good idee to use asp.net in project such l> as l> "http://www.linkedin.com/"? l> I heard that the asp.net "has no good performance" especially using l> with mssql. l> So, now Im confused.. really I dont believe of this that the asp.net l> is slower than jee, ror, php etc.
laziers@gmail.com - 17 Dec 2007 09:27 GMT > Hello lazi...@gmail.com, > > Who told u that? :) hmm... java-guys ? ;)
> Actually it depends on you requirements and the blocking area is only the > bandwidth, but not the SQL Server :) > > I suppose u are not building real-time system with <10ms delays in ASP.net :) fortunately, I dont ;)
Scott Roberts - 17 Dec 2007 16:31 GMT >> Who told u that? :) > hmm... java-guys ? ;) Tell the java guys that the *real* programmers over in the asp.net forums said java is crap and .net is 10X faster.
Seriously, didn't the "language wars" end about 10 years ago? I thought that today it was chic to be proficient in multiple languages, not a fan-boi of language "X".
Peter Bromberg [C# MVP] - 17 Dec 2007 17:46 GMT Where did you get this FUD info? ASP.NET combined with MS SQL Server is about the fastest combo around. Big sites will millions of users are written with these. -- Peter Site: http://www.eggheadcafe.com UnBlog: http://petesbloggerama.blogspot.com MetaFinder: http://www.blogmetafinder.com
> Hi, > Could anyone tell me if is good idee to use asp.net in project such as [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So, now Im confused.. really I dont believe of this that the asp.net > is slower than jee, ror, php etc. laziers@gmail.com - 17 Dec 2007 18:58 GMT On 17 Gru, 18:46, Peter Bromberg [C# MVP] <pbromb...@yahoo.NoSpamMaam.com> wrote:
> Where did you get this FUD info? ASP.NET combined with MS SQL Server is about > the fastest combo around. Big sites will millions of users are written with > these. hmm asp.net ok is very very fast, but ms sql? :I i saw the tests on the internet with mysql, and the mysql was faster :I I know the case of a big site where developers wanted to move from php+mysql to asp.net mssql. they do that, they notice that the site is much slower :I so they stop migrate to asp.net+mssql.
Hmm in fact this is the reason of my questions and my confuses.
Barrie Wilson - 17 Dec 2007 20:55 GMT > On 17 Gru, 18:46, Peter Bromberg [C# MVP] > <pbromb...@yahoo.NoSpamMaam.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Hmm in fact this is the reason of my questions and my confuses. The first thing you have to do is evaluate YOUR needs; never mind the gazillion claims on the internet; I've seen too many of these discussions go on for days/weeks and it ends up the OP has such nominal requirements that almost ANY database would have served them well from a performance perspective.
There are all kinds of published metrics available, depending upon configuration and use of the DB ... in any case, the general suggestion that ASP.NET+MSSQL is slow is just plain silly.
That said, if I had 50 PHP developers coding against MySQL on an established site I don't think I'd even think about making the move you mention unless I had a long time to transition and get everyone up to speed; there's a lock-in and training problem, which you should think about if you're starting from scratch .. what do your people know? who are you going to be able to hire in your geographic area?
laziers@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2007 08:47 GMT but, I have done some test 1. selecting one record: mysql was faster about 150 ms 2. selecting 50 records: and mysql was faster again :I
Michael Nemtsev [MVP] - 18 Dec 2007 09:19 GMT Hello laziers@gmail.com,
and how u measured that?
withour production environment settings and FW settings for each platform u can't compare this results
--- WBR, Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour
"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
l> but, I have done some test l> 1. selecting one record: mysql was faster about 150 ms l> 2. selecting 50 records: and mysql was faster again :
laziers@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2007 10:53 GMT > Hello lazi...@gmail.com, > > and how u measured that? like this
start = Environment.TickCount;
// Here sql query in mysql
stop = Environment.TickCount;
star - stop
start = Environment.TickCount;
// Here sql query in mssql
stop = Environment.TickCount;
star - stop
> withour production environment settings and FW settings for each platform > u can't compare this results ok I see, but it is strange for me why mssql is slower on my machine than mysql
Mark Rae [MVP] - 18 Dec 2007 09:20 GMT > but, I have done some test > 1. selecting one record: mysql was faster about 150 ms > 2. selecting 50 records: and mysql was faster again :I If MySQL works better for you in your environment, use it.
What's the problem...?
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laziers@gmail.com - 18 Dec 2007 11:02 GMT > If MySQL works better for you in your environment, use it. > > What's the problem...? Realy? I dont belive that mssql is slower than mysql in spite of the "my pseudotest" show different result.
hmm.. Now, I realy dont know which database I must choose for the projeckt like a http://www.linkedin.com/
> -- > Mark Rae > ASP.NET MVPhttp://www.markrae.net Scott Roberts - 17 Dec 2007 21:35 GMT > On 17 Gru, 18:46, Peter Bromberg [C# MVP] > <pbromb...@yahoo.NoSpamMaam.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the internet > with mysql, and the mysql was faster And here is some guy saying MS SQL is faster: http://www.devx.com/MicrosoftISV/Article/35028
I'm sure I could look around and find someone "on the internet" who says "Scott's SQL 2008" is faster.
> :I I know the case of a big site > where developers > wanted to move from php+mysql to asp.net mssql. they do that, they > notice that > the site is much slower :I so they stop migrate to asp.net+mssql. My guess is that the PHP+MySQL developers employed by said company didn't know enough about .Net and/or SQL Server to make the switch. Or, said company hired the wrong contractors/developers to make the switch. Or, one of a billion other reasons......
Let me assure you, your skill as a programmer/DBA will have a much, much more significant impact on performance than whatever language + DB you choose.
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