Replacing VS .NET's SQL Server Express Edition Integration

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Scott M. - 29 Nov 2007 05:15 GMT

I've seen many posts and ready articles discussing how changing the
membership & roles "provider" in VS .NET is easy, but have yet to see
instructions on how to do it.

If I already have SQL Server 2000 on a machine and didn't install SQL Server
2005 Express with my VS .NET installation, how do I set up my existing SQL
2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 29 Nov 2007 09:27 GMT

Hi Scott,

As for configuring ASP.NET 2.0 membership to connect SQL Server 2000, you
need to do the following things:

** use aspnet_regsql.exe tool to setup a database in sqlserver 2000 db

** add a new membership provider in your ASP.NET 2.0 application which use
a connectionstring pointed to your SQL Server 2000 database

Here are two web articles provided detailed steps:

#Configuring ASP.NET 2.0 Application Services to use SQL Server 2000 or SQL
Server 2005
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2005/08/25/423703.aspx

#Using ASP.NET 2.0 Membership API with SQL Server 2000
http://www.vikramlakhotia.com/Using_ASPNET_20_Membership_API_with_SQL_Server
_2000.aspx

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

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>Reply-To: "Scott M." <smar@nospam.nospam>
>From: "Scott M." <smar@nospam.nospam>
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>2005 Express with my VS .NET installation, how do I set up my existing SQL
>2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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Juan T. Llibre - 29 Nov 2007 09:59 GMT

You beat me to it, Steven... ;-)

Second link reposted, to fix it, as it was broken into 2 lines.

!> #Using ASP.NET 2.0 Membership API with SQL Server 2000
!> http://www.vikramlakhotia.com/Using_ASPNET_20_Membership_API_with_SQL_Server_200
0.aspx

Something to keep in mind, too, is that SQL Server 2000 and SQL Server 2005 Express can coexist.
I have them both running on the same testbox at the same time.

That way, you don't have to deal with custom implementations which might require old syntax.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
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> Hi Scott,
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>>2005 Express with my VS .NET installation, how do I set up my existing SQL
>>2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 30 Nov 2007 02:39 GMT

Thanks Juan,

I always encounter such broken link issue due to the tool my used :(

Thanks for correcting it.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

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>Subject: Re: Replacing VS .NET's SQL Server Express Edition Integration
>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:59:47 -0400
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>!> #Using ASP.NET 2.0 Membership API with SQL Server 2000
>!>

http://www.vikramlakhotia.com/Using_ASPNET_20_Membership_API_with_SQL_Server
_2000.aspx

>Something to keep in mind, too, is that SQL Server 2000 and SQL Server 2005 Express can coexist.
>I have them both running on the same testbox at the same time.
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>> #Using ASP.NET 2.0 Membership API with SQL Server 2000

http://www.vikramlakhotia.com/Using_ASPNET_20_Membership_API_with_SQL_Server

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>>>2005 Express with my VS .NET installation, how do I set up my existing SQL
>>>2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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Scott M. - 30 Nov 2007 02:19 GMT

Ok, ScottGu's blog was a good link to answer my question.

So, now I have a follow up question, which came up in Scott's blog, but was
not answered:

If I have an existing database with my own user/password data already in a
table, how can I configure ASP .NET to use that data? How would the
provider know to use my tables and what field represents what data?

> Hi Scott,
>
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>>2005 Express with my VS .NET installation, how do I set up my existing SQL
>>2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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Juan T. Llibre - 30 Nov 2007 02:50 GMT

1. You could write a custom membership provider.

These articles explain :

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2005/10/17/427731.aspx

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa479038.aspx

http://www.15seconds.com/issue/050216.htm

2. You could add the tables you need to your existing database table.

Here's a guide : http://www.steamed-design.com/

...and here's info on aspnet_regsql.exe :

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms229862(vs.80).aspx

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
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> Ok, ScottGu's blog was a good link to answer my question.
>
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>>>2005 Express with my VS .NET installation, how do I set up my existing SQL
>>>2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 30 Nov 2007 02:50 GMT

Thanks for your reply Scott,

As you said you already have an existing database that contains the
username/password, is that database previously used by membership
provider(in SQL Express)? If so, since that database has the correct
membership structure, you can surely use it. An easy way is to simply
attach the old database to new server instance(or use SSIS is they're of
diffferent version). If the database is not a membership database(but
your own user account database), I'm afraid you will need to maually import
those user account info into ASP.NET membership database through
membership APIS(such as adduser...).

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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>> #Using ASP.NET 2.0 Membership API with SQL Server 2000

http://www.vikramlakhotia.com/Using_ASPNET_20_Membership_API_with_SQL_Server

>> _2000.aspx
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>> ications.
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>>>2005 Express with my VS .NET installation, how do I set up my existing SQL
>>>2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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Scott M. - 30 Nov 2007 05:52 GMT

> If the database is not a membership database(but
> your own user account database), I'm afraid you will need to maually
> import
> those user account info into ASP.NET membership database through
> membership APIS(such as adduser...).

Yes, this would be the case. Can you tell me what APIS(such as adduser...)
means? Thanks!

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Steven Cheng[MSFT] - 30 Nov 2007 08:22 GMT

Sure Scott,

For the APIs, just configure your membership provider and then use the
"Membership" class's static methods such as "CreateUser" and "DeleteUser"

CreateUser Overloaded. Adds a new user to the data store.
DeleteUser Overloaded. Deletes a user from the database.

#Membership Methods
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.web.security.membership_meth
ods.aspx

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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>> If the database is not a membership database(but
>> your own user account database), I'm afraid you will need to maually
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>Yes, this would be the case. Can you tell me what APIS(such as adduser...)
>means? Thanks!

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Juan T. Llibre - 30 Nov 2007 10:27 GMT

re:
!> Can you tell me what APIS(such as adduser...) means? Thanks!

Here's a complete guide :

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/ms366730(VS.80).aspx

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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>> If the database is not a membership database(but
>> your own user account database), I'm afraid you will need to maually import
>> those user account info into ASP.NET membership database through
>> membership APIS(such as adduser...).
>
> Yes, this would be the case. Can you tell me what APIS(such as adduser...) means? Thanks!

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sloan - 04 Dec 2007 14:05 GMT

You may find this post:
http://sholliday.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A68482B9628A842A!160.entry

about transferring existing data to a new database...helpful.

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> I've seen many posts and ready articles discussing how changing the
> membership & roles "provider" in VS .NET is easy, but have yet to see
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> existing SQL 2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP
> .NET?

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Scott M. - 04 Dec 2007 22:30 GMT

Thanks, but what I'm asking about is the opposite of what this describes.

I don't want to transfer my data into the aspnet database, I want to not use
the aspnet database and use my database instead.

> You may find this post:
> http://sholliday.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A68482B9628A842A!160.entry
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>> existing SQL 2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP
>> .NET?

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Juan T. Llibre - 05 Dec 2007 02:30 GMT

re:
!> I don't want to transfer my data into the aspnet database,
!> I want to not use the aspnet database and use my database instead.

Write your own Membership Provider.
That's the only way you'll be able to do that.

Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
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> Thanks, but what I'm asking about is the opposite of what this describes.
>
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>>> If I already have SQL Server 2000 on a machine and didn't install SQL Server 2005 Express with my VS .NET
>>> installation, how do I set up my existing SQL 2000 server to be the membership & roles provider for ASP .NET?

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