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Hi young folk, and i'm learning to work with ASP.net and yesterday I was talking to a friend in regards a good book to buy for learning CSS. With surprise he told me that Microsoft has released the Flash competitor that integrates perfectly with ASP.Net, called Silverlight. Surfing for Silverlight on the Microsoft websiate, i found also Microsoft Blend Express: now, since i'm kind of confused, i was wondering if someone could give an indication of the difference between Silverlight and Blend. Thanks a lot, Vinnie > Hi young folk, and i'm learning to work with ASP.net and yesterday I > was talking to a friend in regards a good book to buy for learning [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks a lot, > Vinnie The difference is the same as the one between Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Flash. Microsoft? Expression Blend? is the professional design tool used to create engaging Web-connected experiences for Windows. Silverlight is a cross-browser, cross-platform plug-in for delivering the next generation of media experiences and rich interactive applications. Take a look at this, download the demo and watch it, its quite illuminating. http://silverlight.net/getstarted/ I had no Idea these two products were around, they are going to take the market by storm in my opinion. On Sep 29, 4:37 pm, Vinnie <centro.ga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi young folk, and i'm learning to work with ASP.net and yesterday I > was talking to a friend in regards a good book to buy for learning [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks a lot, > Vinnie The difference is the same as the one between Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Flash. Microsoft® Expression BlendT is the professional design tool used to create engaging Web-connected experiences for Windows. Silverlight is a cross-browser, cross-platform plug-in for delivering the next generation of media experiences and rich interactive applications. > Take a look at this, download the demo and watch it, its quite > illuminating. > > http://silverlight.net/getstarted/ It's a little difficult to get beyond counting the number of times the presenter says "go ahead and"... Incredibly irritating...  SignatureMark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net Lol, well thats our American cousins for you. >> Take a look at this, download the demo and watch it, its quite >> illuminating. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Incredibly irritating... RE: << .. used to create engaging Web-connected experiences >> and << next generation of media experiences and rich interactive >> Am I supposed to go "ohhhh I get it!" I had no idea before, now it's all perfectly clear" What is any of that supposed to mean? "engaging experiences" "next generation"... "rich interactive" All of those completely vague descriptors can be used in reference to plain old HTML pages styled with plain old css. A humble hyperlink can be described as "interactive" - hook it up to a sexy .gif and the plain old hyperlink can now be described as "rich interactive" or "engaging". Maybe not "next generation" - but then "next generation" does absolutely nothing to inform us what the technology actually IS or DOES. Sorry about the rant - you sound like all of those totally unhelpful "Spotlight on Silverlight" MSDN flash promos floating around. I've read them and still have no idea what they are talking about. I was hoping you'd be able to shed some light. But "engaging" ??? "rich interactive??? I still have no idea what these things are. Sheesh. -S On Sep 29, 4:37 pm, Vinnie <centro.ga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi young folk, and i'm learning to work with ASP.net and yesterday I > was talking to a friend in regards a good book to buy for learning [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks a lot, > Vinnie The difference is the same as the one between Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Flash. Microsoft® Expression BlendT is the professional design tool used to create engaging Web-connected experiences for Windows. Silverlight is a cross-browser, cross-platform plug-in for delivering the next generation of media experiences and rich interactive applications. > RE: > << .. used to create engaging Web-connected experiences >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > the next generation of media experiences and rich interactive > applications. It's all about marketing. Will it be more clear for you if they wrote "Expression Blend is the tool to create Silverlight. And Silverlight is a browser plug-in to deliver a multimedia content"? <snip> > It's all about marketing. Yes - but as a genius marketing company (no sarcasm there - I really think that), I would expect Microsoft to consider *who* they are marketing TO. Consider the audience. When marketing to a non technical person, those fluff words might be effective. But marketing to a programmer, those fluff expressions are meaningless (at best). I would especially expect anybody posting in this particular NG to communicate in more technical terms. See my comments below: >Will it be more clear for you if they wrote > "Expression Blend is the > tool to create Silverlight. And Silverlight is a browser plug-in to > deliver a multimedia content"? YES! That's far more helpful. "X is a browser plug-in" tells us technical types more about what is going on - what this new technology IS - and not simply that it's "next generation" which tells us nothing about what, how, why or any other such aspect. With those 19 words above ("Expression Blend is the tool to...", I know *far more* about what silverlight is, and its relationship to Expression Blend. In the C# NG a couple of days some guy was claiming that Silverlight *replaces* CSS. Was he an idiot or was he just confused and reading into the marketing gloss of "rich interactive, next generation" blah blah blah surrounding Silverlight? -S > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > words might be effective. But marketing to a programmer, those fluff > expressions are meaningless (at best). It's not for programmers: - What is Microsoft Expression? - Microsoft Expression is a suite of tools for professional designers building web and Windows client applications and rich media content. http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/faq.aspx?key=studio >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > building web and Windows client applications and rich media content. > http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/faq.aspx?key=studio Thanks for the link. It's chock full of the fluff I was ranting about, but weeding through that gets to some helpful info. -S Ha Ha Ha Rant, Love it ! Instead of ranting. Why dont you take a little time to watch the demo and read up on it a bit more. I think that this has potential to address a number of issues for developers/teams. But hey, I dont work for ms, so i dont really give a rats if you like it or hate it, makes absolutely no difference to me. ;-D > RE: > << .. used to create engaging Web-connected experiences >> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > the next generation of media experiences and rich interactive > applications. RE: << Why dont you take a little time to watch the demo and read up on it a bit more>> I have and I will! But I think it's also useful to point out how we can communicate more effectively - what works and, in this case, what doesn't work. Hopefully it will help to raise the collective intelligence - whatever that is :-) This particular topic is in need of much more clarity than the developer community is getting. While many developers have heard of XAML, SilverLight, and Expression Blend etc, many really don't know what they are, how they might relate to each other, and reasons to adopt. And these things have been out (or at least talked about) for a long time now (at least XAML has been around for a couple of years). Part of the problem is the "next generation" "rich interative" "web-connected" fluff that we get. You've gotta be kidding! --- "Web-connected" good grief. My a$$ is "web connected" (but that's a different story!). Q: "Who is Jon Smith?" (What is Silverlight?) A: "He is an "engaging" young man." ("It's next generation, man!") Q: "Do you know anything useful about Jon Smith (Silverlight) at this point??? A: No. -S I think you need to work out on a punch bag for a couple of hours, then go out and nip off a few beers dude. You sound way to wound up ! > RE: > << Why dont you take a little time to watch the demo and read up on it a [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > -S Silverlight is the piece that runs to put interactive content in a browser. Blend is a tool for building Silverlight applications. This really comes to fruition when the final 1.1 bits are released later this year or early next year. Adobe's competing technology is called the Flex Framework. It still uses Flash as its cornerstone. SignatureGregory A. Beamer MVP, MCP: +I, SE, SD, DBA ************************************************* | Think outside the box! ************************************************* > Hi young folk, and i'm learning to work with ASP.net and yesterday I > was talking to a friend in regards a good book to buy for learning [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thanks a lot, > Vinnie
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