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.NET Forum / ASP.NET / General / February 2006ASP.NET in Firefox
I've been developing ASP.NET 1.1 application, testing it in IE 6.0 on my development machine. Of course, everything looks normal in IE as it should. Well, since it's going to be released to cross-browser user base, I wanted to see what it would look like in Firefox... well I am terrified how badly firefox renders practiclly all the pages to the point where app is unusable in firefox. I am not even sure where/how to begin addressing these issues. I should note that that the web app is pretty much straight forward HTML with a stylesheet, of course I am using server side asp controls but those should produce cross-browser html. Did anyone have simillar issues with Firefox?, your thoughts? Thanks. sorry charlie , but the fact of the matter is that the problem is with ie and not with firefox - you will most likely find the same issues with every other current browser as well. with any css / scripting ie is the last browser that you should be testing with , not the first. if you get things working in virtually any browser other than ie , it will work in virtually all browsers other than ie. then you need to look at the work arounds required for acceptable performance in ie. hopefully ie7 with remedy this situation and it will just be a matter of time until ie pre-v7 fade away into the sunset. > I've been developing ASP.NET 1.1 application, testing it in IE 6.0 on my > development machine. Of course, everything looks normal in IE as it should. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Did anyone have simillar issues with Firefox?, your thoughts? > Thanks. Replying to a reply, since I can't see the original > > I've been developing ASP.NET 1.1 application, testing it in IE 6.0 on my > > development machine. Of course, everything looks normal in IE as it [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > hopefully ie7 with remedy this situation and it will just be a matter of > time until ie pre-v7 fade away into the sunset. First things first - this is ASP.NET 1.1, which out of the box does a *shocking* job with browsers other than IE. The first question is, have you updated your browsercaps? If not (or if you don't know what I'm talking about), go to http://slingfive.com/pages/code/browserCaps/ and read about what you need to do (also talks about the problem of reading the information about browsercaps in machine.config) Once that's in place, then you can start fixing the rest using additional styles in your stylesheets. Damien > sorry charlie , but the fact of the matter is that the problem is with ie > and not with firefox - you will most likely find the same issues with every > other current browser as well. IE is very forgiving with crap code. How is that a problem? The problem is with the code, not the only browser capable of rendering it! ;o) well , that was my point, you can't target & test exclusively using ie. and then expect everything to work in other browsers. but on belligerent side : therein lies the problem with a forgiving browser that gladly accepts crap code while at the same time either mangling or completely ignoring standards compliant html/css that every other current browser on the market handles just fine. you have a choice - a browser that can handle garbage code while mishandling good code or a browser that can handle good code while mishandling the garbage. personally I would rather have a browser handle the good, standards compliant code and choke on the garbage than one that handle some of bad code and chokes on a lot of the good code. imagine a c++ compiler that forgivingly allowed relapses into vb - what a mess that would be. and of course then all other c++ compilers would then be considered inferior by your reasoning because they generated syntax errors when encoutering the vb code. > > sorry charlie , but the fact of the matter is that the problem is with ie > > and not with firefox - you will most likely find the same issues with every > > other current browser as well. > > IE is very forgiving with crap code. How is that a problem? The problem > is with the code, not the only browser capable of rendering it! ;o) Hi, > well , that was my point, you can't target & test exclusively using ie. and > then expect everything to work in other browsers. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > completely ignoring standards compliant html/css that every other current > browser on the market handles just fine. To be fair, IE6 is much, much better at accepting standard code than its previous versions. It is now possible to write HTML, JavaScript and (though it is more difficult) CSS code that will work in a standard way without too big an expense. Before, it was almost impossible, or needed at best object detection, at worst browser detection. I agree totally with you, though, when you say that the fact that IE accepts non-standard code is a shame and a problem. <snip> Laurent  SignatureLaurent Bugnion, GalaSoft Software engineering: http://www.galasoft-LB.ch Private/Malaysia: http://mypage.bluewin.ch/lbugnion Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch I don't really care whose fault it is. I looked at the html source of 1 particular page that firefox completely messed up rendering, it's nothing more than a couple of nested tables with styles dictating cell colors, border width colors, etc. And firefox messed it up beyond recognition. Now I do find it strange that firefox chokes a simple html like that. I am not sure if it's worth time or effort messing with html and browser cap files to support firefox. have you tried this same page in netscape , opera , konquerer , safari .... my guess is that you'll find as many problems with these browsers as well. as soon as ie and css are involved most problems you run into can be linked to ie. setting up your browser caps does go a long way to sorting out these problems. not worth the time ? cut and paste from http://slingfive.com/pages/code/browserCaps/browserCaps_spaces.txt , for example, into your web.config - that's it - maybe, what, 2 minutes tops ? can you post a link to the page in question so we can see what this 'simple html' actually look like ? you're problem could be juat a small css or html modification, bit it is impossible to say based on 'looks good in ie but firefox completely messes it up - what do I do' . > I don't really care whose fault it is. I looked at the html source of 1 > particular page that firefox completely messed up rendering, it's nothing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I am not sure if it's worth time or effort messing with html and browser cap > files to support firefox. For 1.1, except for IE6, all other browsers are treated as downlevel browsers, meaning that the HTML rendered in these browsers is based on HTML 3.2 instead of HTML 4.0. With HTML 3.2, there is no CSS support. I believe that you can use the ClientTarget property for the Page class to force a browser to be uplevel, thus supporting CSS. Look at the MSDN documentation for this property. SignatureChristopher A. Reed "The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient." > I've been developing ASP.NET 1.1 application, testing it in IE 6.0 on my > development machine. Of course, everything looks normal in IE as it [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Did anyone have simillar issues with Firefox?, your thoughts? > Thanks. AFAIK Firefox is not handled correctly by the initial browser capabilities file (likely considered as an old Mozilla browser). You should find an updated file on Google that will be able to better handle Firefox. SignaturePatrice > I've been developing ASP.NET 1.1 application, testing it in IE 6.0 on my > development machine. Of course, everything looks normal in IE as it should. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Did anyone have simillar issues with Firefox?, your thoughts? > Thanks. Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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